1.20.3
Road Captain
Joined: Sep 2014
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From: MN
I have a 2015 Limited.
Maybe I'm using the wrong terms for the settings I'm using ........... but I want :
1) My GPS map is displayed such that I'm always "heading towards the windshield". I'm never headed "towards the left/right mirror" and I'm never headed "towards the gas tank". Sorry, I dont know the official term for such behavior .............. but this is how *I* like it.
2) I want my 'compass needle' to point in the direction I'm heading. (ie not to point to true north)
My bike is in storage and I cant recall what version of Boom I'm running (1.19.1 or 1.19.2 I think) , but somewhere around version 1.20, the compass was changed from 'directional needle' to 'true compass'.
I'd like to see a user-controlled setting to assign the compass behavior as 'true compass' vs 'directional needle'.
If there is a way to configure the GPS/compass behavior the way I want, I'm all ears.
Road Warrior
Joined: Dec 2016
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From: Lincolnshire, IL
Just curious (and confused)......Why in the world would you want a "compass needle" to point in the direction you're going?? IF it did that it would tell you NOTHING! A compass by definition points to Magnetic North. If a person knows one direction (ie: Magnetic North) then, by deduction you then know where East, South and West are.
Perhaps you're confusing the map display orientation with compass needle? With map orientation you can choose from a North up map display....or....a "track up" map display. (a "track up" orientation displays your direction of travel towards the top of the screen and disregards Magnetic North except for the small needle display in the corner of the screen)
Personally (and most others) prefer a track up display because it's easier to interpret. In other words, with "Track Up" if your course line indicates a turn to the left....you simply turn to the left. However if you were in "North Up" mode a left turn indicated could be actually a right turn....you'd have to be constantly mentally interpreting what the screen is telling you......lol....way too much work.
I suggest you set your screen for "Track Up"..... I've been flying for 30 years and that's the way most set their GPS flight instruments.
Perhaps you're confusing the map display orientation with compass needle? With map orientation you can choose from a North up map display....or....a "track up" map display. (a "track up" orientation displays your direction of travel towards the top of the screen and disregards Magnetic North except for the small needle display in the corner of the screen)
Personally (and most others) prefer a track up display because it's easier to interpret. In other words, with "Track Up" if your course line indicates a turn to the left....you simply turn to the left. However if you were in "North Up" mode a left turn indicated could be actually a right turn....you'd have to be constantly mentally interpreting what the screen is telling you......lol....way too much work.
I suggest you set your screen for "Track Up"..... I've been flying for 30 years and that's the way most set their GPS flight instruments.
Road Master
Joined: Aug 2007
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From: Mesa, AZ
And the previous poster - Also agree, why do you have to accept the radio coming on...
Road Captain
Joined: Sep 2014
Posts: 550
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From: MN
Just curious (and confused)......Why in the world would you want a "compass needle" to point in the direction you're going?? IF it did that it would tell you NOTHING! A compass by definition points to Magnetic North. If a person knows one direction (ie: Magnetic North) then, by deduction you then know where East, South and West are.
Perhaps you're confusing the map display orientation with compass needle? With map orientation you can choose from a North up map display....or....a "track up" map display. (a "track up" orientation displays your direction of travel towards the top of the screen and disregards Magnetic North except for the small needle display in the corner of the screen)
Personally (and most others) prefer a track up display because it's easier to interpret. In other words, with "Track Up" if your course line indicates a turn to the left....you simply turn to the left. However if you were in "North Up" mode a left turn indicated could be actually a right turn....you'd have to be constantly mentally interpreting what the screen is telling you......lol....way too much work.
I suggest you set your screen for "Track Up"..... I've been flying for 30 years and that's the way most set their GPS flight instruments.
Perhaps you're confusing the map display orientation with compass needle? With map orientation you can choose from a North up map display....or....a "track up" map display. (a "track up" orientation displays your direction of travel towards the top of the screen and disregards Magnetic North except for the small needle display in the corner of the screen)
Personally (and most others) prefer a track up display because it's easier to interpret. In other words, with "Track Up" if your course line indicates a turn to the left....you simply turn to the left. However if you were in "North Up" mode a left turn indicated could be actually a right turn....you'd have to be constantly mentally interpreting what the screen is telling you......lol....way too much work.
I suggest you set your screen for "Track Up"..... I've been flying for 30 years and that's the way most set their GPS flight instruments.
But it would still be nice to know what direction I'm going...... in fact, I'd argue that in 'track up' mode, knowing the directionof travel is even more important because the map is not conveying your direction at all. (Lets not get into the usual debate of where or not anyone should NEED a compass - its been brought up too often). If the the compass had some directional labels, other than 'just' pointing North, that would help. Imagine I'm in 'track up' mode, and am truly heading SW ...... the needle points to the 4:30 position (think "clock"), which could potentially be mis-read as SE. I'm supposed to intuitively compute that the "4:30" position means I'm going SW. If the area around the needle was labelled N, NE, E, SE, S, SW, W, NW, and it rotated as I changed direction, it would be much easier. Or just post the direction as text at the bottom of the screen like most other screens EXCEPT the GPS show !
Imagine the old liquid-filled compass in your car .......... and the only direction noted on it is N....... and you compute your direction based on the position of the 'N' only. Do-able ? Yes ? Could it be improved ? I think so ? Would it be difficult ? I dont think so, since the compass needle behavior has varied between releases, so clearly the logic exists for both modes of operation. And that was the only reason for my original question - Did the compass behavior change/become configurable with 1.20.3 ?
I assume not. Therefore I'm staying with 1.19, which allows me to operate in 'track up' with a directional needle to easily tell me the direction I'm going.
Sorry for turning the 1.20.3 post into the usual compass debate.
Stellar HDF Member
Joined: Dec 2013
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From: Long Island NY
You all know that on the navi screen you can assign one of those 2 tabs on the bottom with the direction you're heading? And on the "source" (radio) screen it shows the direction on the bottom bar, N,S,E,or W.
Road Captain
Joined: Sep 2014
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From: MN
And yes, as I posted:
"Or just post the direction as text at the bottom of the screen like most other screens EXCEPT the GPS show !"
I knew that the direction was available on virtually all other screens.
Cruiser
Joined: Sep 2010
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The gps can be set with North up or direction of travel up. The direction arrow(red needle pointing at the direction you are traveling) has been converted in one of the recent updates to a compass (red arrow always pointing toward the North).
Road Warrior
Joined: Aug 2014
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From: Vancouver, WA
Correct. I think the OP wants it displayed the way it was before; if you're traveling east, the needle would point to the 3 o'clock position. That was confusing to most people because it looked like north was to your right. IMO, the needle should always point to north and the compass rose should rotate around the needle as opposed to the needle rotating as you turn....like it is now.
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Cruiser
Joined: Dec 2015
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From: Arkansas
Compass:
If you have the heading up, the compass works like this:
If the red pointer points up, you are going north.
If the red pointer points south, you are going south.
Here is the tricky part:
If the pointer points right, you are going west.
If the pointer points left, you are going east.
This sounds weird, but in an hour or so, you can learn to adapt to this.
Say the pointer is pointing up and to the right:
You are going north west. North because the pointer is up and west because the pointer is right.
Basically, the N & S works like you expect. The E & W is reversed.
I have spent more time typing this out than it takes to learn in real life.
If you have the heading up, the compass works like this:
If the red pointer points up, you are going north.
If the red pointer points south, you are going south.
Here is the tricky part:
If the pointer points right, you are going west.
If the pointer points left, you are going east.
This sounds weird, but in an hour or so, you can learn to adapt to this.
Say the pointer is pointing up and to the right:
You are going north west. North because the pointer is up and west because the pointer is right.
Basically, the N & S works like you expect. The E & W is reversed.
I have spent more time typing this out than it takes to learn in real life.
Cruiser
Joined: Dec 2015
Posts: 239
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From: Arkansas
New features:
I have found 3 new features in this update:
1 - The trip summary screen used to get the day of the trip confused if you spanned two days. Now it is correct.
2 - The trip summary screen used to chop off the end of the start time if the date was too long. Now they chop from the left on the label.
This one is a big fix:
3 - After 6 or so hours of using the GPS, without a "reboot", the GPS would slow to a crawl, to the point even the speed displayed would lag severely. The only way to fix this would be to turn off the bike, wait a minute, restart and resume the trip. I do a lot of long rides (I have 18,000 miles so far on my M8.) and I don't turn off the computer when I stop for gas or whatever. I just flip the ignition to the right to put it into accessory. The bike won't get stolen because I have the fob in my pocket. Anyways, this horrible lag has been fixed.
Here is a sample screen that shows fixes 1 & 2:
I have found 3 new features in this update:
1 - The trip summary screen used to get the day of the trip confused if you spanned two days. Now it is correct.
2 - The trip summary screen used to chop off the end of the start time if the date was too long. Now they chop from the left on the label.
This one is a big fix:
3 - After 6 or so hours of using the GPS, without a "reboot", the GPS would slow to a crawl, to the point even the speed displayed would lag severely. The only way to fix this would be to turn off the bike, wait a minute, restart and resume the trip. I do a lot of long rides (I have 18,000 miles so far on my M8.) and I don't turn off the computer when I stop for gas or whatever. I just flip the ignition to the right to put it into accessory. The bike won't get stolen because I have the fob in my pocket. Anyways, this horrible lag has been fixed.
Here is a sample screen that shows fixes 1 & 2: