2018+ Softail Models Breakout

What the difference between the Standard M8 118 Softail aircleaner filter and the Ventilator K/N filter?

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Aug 21, 2019 | 01:25 AM
  #1  
FranBunnyFFXII's Avatar
FranBunnyFFXII
Thread Starter
|
HDF Community Team
Veteran: National Guard
5 Year Member
Liked
Community Favorite
Joined: Oct 2018
Posts: 4,345
Likes: 3,392
From: Seattle
Community Team
Default What the difference between the Standard M8 114 Softail aircleaner filter and the Ventilator K/N filter?

I'm looking at the 114 Fat Boy, and all of the stock 114s have that bar oval air cleaner with the grey filter element.
The one in the Ventilator filter is a Pink K/N filter though.
So what's the difference between these two?

Might sound dumb but I can just buy that K/N filter instead of the whole kit right?

My plan is to go up to a eventually go with a 117 Cylinder Kit with, an SnS 475c Camchest, and the harley highperformance Clutchpack, but I want to keep the stock aircleaner and exhaust look.(with slip ons)
 

Last edited by FranBunnyFFXII; Aug 21, 2019 at 02:02 AM.
Reply
Old Aug 21, 2019 | 03:07 AM
  #2  
MrLongbeard's Avatar
MrLongbeard
Tourer
Joined: May 2019
Posts: 302
Likes: 289
From: Worcestershire UK
Default

Originally Posted by FranBunnyFFXII

Might sound dumb but I can just buy that K/N filter instead of the whole kit right?
I did, no idea if it'd offer more if paired with the whole kit but I was tight on funds so.....
 
Reply
Old Aug 21, 2019 | 07:45 AM
  #3  
Mchad's Avatar
Mchad
Club Member
10 Year Member
Shutterbug
Joined: Dec 2014
Posts: 10,734
Likes: 3,755
From: SWFL
Riders Club Member
Default

HD sells the K&N filter as an option, so yes. I put this on my FBS for the two weeks I owned it. It's supposed to flow better then the stock element.

https://www.harley-davidson.com/stor...18-29400293--1
 

Last edited by Mchad; Aug 21, 2019 at 07:46 AM.
Reply
Old Aug 21, 2019 | 09:40 AM
  #4  
Hulkss's Avatar
Hulkss
HDF Community Team
10 Year Member
Photogenic
Photoriffic
Shutterbug
Joined: Sep 2013
Posts: 2,360
Likes: 2,319
From: Wisconsin
Community Team
Default

Originally Posted by FranBunnyFFXII
I'm looking at the 114 Fat Boy, and all of the stock 114s have that bar oval air cleaner with the grey filter element.
The one in the Ventilator filter is a Pink K/N filter though.
So what's the difference between these two?

Might sound dumb but I can just buy that K/N filter instead of the whole kit right?

My plan is to go up to a eventually go with a 117 Cylinder Kit with, an SnS 475c Camchest, and the harley highperformance Clutchpack, but I want to keep the stock aircleaner and exhaust look.(with slip ons)
In my opinion spending lots of money and tearing down the entire top end for a 2.6% increase in displacement is not worth it. Go big if you are doing all that work.

128 kit
 
Reply
Old Aug 21, 2019 | 01:56 PM
  #5  
Flamegirl's Avatar
Flamegirl
Novice
Joined: Mar 2009
Posts: 19
Likes: 1
From: Concord, CA
Default

When I had a stage 1 done on the bike I had the air filter changed to a K/N. You do not need to change the backplate behind the air filter. That is what you get in the kits. The stock backplate is already a high airflow plate.
I hope this made sense.
 
Reply
Old Aug 21, 2019 | 02:35 PM
  #6  
FranBunnyFFXII's Avatar
FranBunnyFFXII
Thread Starter
|
HDF Community Team
Veteran: National Guard
5 Year Member
Liked
Community Favorite
Joined: Oct 2018
Posts: 4,345
Likes: 3,392
From: Seattle
Community Team
Default

Originally Posted by Flamegirl
When I had a stage 1 done on the bike I had the air filter changed to a K/N. You do not need to change the backplate behind the air filter. That is what you get in the kits. The stock backplate is already a high airflow plate.
I hope this made sense.
So I just need the K/N filter and that's it.
Sweet, saves me some money on that upgrade path.
 
Reply
Old Aug 21, 2019 | 10:14 PM
  #7  
AJ88V's Avatar
AJ88V
Road Master
Joined: Aug 2018
Posts: 965
Likes: 297
From: NoVa
Default

Got the K&N version of the ventilator installed on my Low Rider. About 35% larger surface area than the stock filter on the LR. K&N shows a dyno curve purporting gains of +5.2 HP and 2.48 lb-ft torque over the stock 107 M8 with no other changes. Fit is good, but my knee hits it just a little bit. Definitely hear the intake sound compared to the stock air cleaner. Installed in about 15-20 minutes. Very well built. Only weird thing is that the lines on the cover don't look horizontal when installed. But seems like a bargain for only $150 street price compared to other cleaners.

 

Last edited by AJ88V; Aug 21, 2019 at 10:16 PM.
Reply
Old Aug 21, 2019 | 10:24 PM
  #8  
FranBunnyFFXII's Avatar
FranBunnyFFXII
Thread Starter
|
HDF Community Team
Veteran: National Guard
5 Year Member
Liked
Community Favorite
Joined: Oct 2018
Posts: 4,345
Likes: 3,392
From: Seattle
Community Team
Default

Originally Posted by AJ88V
Got the K&N version of the ventilator installed on my Low Rider. About 35% larger surface area than the stock filter on the LR. K&N shows a dyno curve purporting gains of +5.2 HP and 2.48 lb-ft torque over the stock 107 M8 with no other changes. Fit is good, but my knee hits it just a little bit. Definitely hear the intake sound compared to the stock air cleaner. Installed in about 15-20 minutes. Very well built. Only weird thing is that the lines on the cover don't look horizontal when installed. But seems like a bargain for only $150 street price compared to other cleaners.
Unforutnately I'm not a fan of that look, but I do very much like the overall look of the Harley 114 Venilator. I was more interested in the filter element differences because I noticed the Stock element and SE element are different ones.
Im thinking If I go with a totally aftermarket one, I wanna get the Arlen Ness Velocity 65, because its one of the highest flow M8 intakes on the market.
 
Reply
HD Forum Stories

The Best of Harley-Davidson for Lifelong Riders

story-0

7 Surprising Harley-Davidson Products that Are Not Motorcycles

 Verdad Gallardo
story-1

8 Best Harley-Davidson Motorcycles Ever

 Pouria Savadkouei
story-2

10 Worst Harley-Davidson Motorcycles Ever

 Pouria Savadkouei
story-3

Killer Custom's Jail Break Is The Breakout That Refused to Blend In

 Verdad Gallardo
story-4

Crazy Bunderbike Build Looks Amazing, But Is It Impossible to Ride?

 Verdad Gallardo
story-5

Harley-Davidson Reveals Super Cool Cafe Racer Concept

 Verdad Gallardo
story-6

Engraved Rebellion: Inside Bundnerbike's Glam Rock II

 Verdad Gallardo
story-7

10 Motorcycles You Should Never Buy

 Joe Kucinski
story-8

10 Things Harley-Davidson Needs to Fix in 2026

 Verdad Gallardo
story-9

Southpaw Super Glide: A Left-Hand-Drive 1979 Harley FXE Built to Fit the Rider

 Verdad Gallardo
Old Aug 22, 2019 | 05:48 AM
  #9  
Mchad's Avatar
Mchad
Club Member
10 Year Member
Shutterbug
Joined: Dec 2014
Posts: 10,734
Likes: 3,755
From: SWFL
Riders Club Member
Default

Originally Posted by FranBunnyFFXII
Unforutnately I'm not a fan of that look, but I do very much like the overall look of the Harley 114 Venilator. I was more interested in the filter element differences because I noticed the Stock element and SE element are different ones.
Im thinking If I go with a totally aftermarket one, I wanna get the Arlen Ness Velocity 65, because its one of the highest flow M8 intakes on the market.
I had to look that one up. That is one odd looking air cleaner.
 
Reply
Old Aug 24, 2019 | 05:52 PM
  #10  
iHodor's Avatar
iHodor
Road Warrior
Joined: May 2018
Posts: 1,561
Likes: 443
From: PNW
Default

It is. But cool too.

What happens to the breathers with this installed?


 
Reply



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 07:32 PM.

story-0
7 Surprising Harley-Davidson Products that Are Not Motorcycles

Slideshow: The bar-and-shield logo shows up on far more than motorcycles, some of the company's most unexpected products have nothing to do with riding.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-04-29 16:50:35


VIEW MORE
story-1
8 Best Harley-Davidson Motorcycles Ever

Slideshow: Not every Harley gets it right, but these are the ones that genuinely earned their reputation.

By Pouria Savadkouei | 2026-04-15 14:23:21


VIEW MORE
story-2
10 Worst Harley-Davidson Motorcycles Ever

Slideshow: From the troubled AMF years to modern misfires, these bikes earned reputations for reliability issues, questionable engineering, or disappointing performance.

By Pouria Savadkouei | 2026-04-01 20:01:09


VIEW MORE
story-3
Killer Custom's Jail Break Is The Breakout That Refused to Blend In

Slideshow: Killer Custom's "Jail Breaker" build focuses more on stance and visual aggression than mechanical overhaul.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-03-18 19:20:32


VIEW MORE
story-4
Crazy Bunderbike Build Looks Amazing, But Is It Impossible to Ride?

Slideshow: The Swiss custom shop has taken a Harley Softail and stretched it into something so long and low that it looks closer to a rolling sculpture than a conventional motorcycle.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-03-07 16:15:30


VIEW MORE
story-5
Harley-Davidson Reveals Super Cool Cafe Racer Concept

Slideshow: Harley-Davidson's new RMCR concept revives the café racer formula with modern hardware-and it may be exactly the reset the company needs.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-03-04 12:23:37


VIEW MORE
story-6
Engraved Rebellion: Inside Bundnerbike's Glam Rock II

Slideshow: A standard cruiser becomes an intricate metal canvas in the hands of a Swiss custom house known for pushing Harley-Davidson platforms far beyond their factory brief.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-02-24 18:19:44


VIEW MORE
story-7
10 Motorcycles You Should Never Buy

Slideshow: There is no shortage of great motorcycles to buy, but we would avoid these ten.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-02-19 14:50:51


VIEW MORE
story-8
10 Things Harley-Davidson Needs to Fix in 2026

Slideshow: Harley-Davidson's challenges aren't abstract; they show up in dropping shipments, shrinking dealer traffic, and strategic decisions that aren't yet translating into growth.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-01-13 18:33:17


VIEW MORE
story-9
Southpaw Super Glide: A Left-Hand-Drive 1979 Harley FXE Built to Fit the Rider

Slideshow: Graeme Billington's left-hand-drive Shovelhead is as much about problem-solving as it is about classic Harley form.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2025-12-30 11:27:08


VIEW MORE