2020 Breakout 114 Tuning required?
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2020 Breakout 114 Tuning required?
As another azzzzzhole almost pulled out in front of me this past weekend, I'm getting more aggressive on saving for the below pipes..
https://vanceandhines.com/products/t...31533691764783
so with that being said, those pipes with this filter, filter element only, no new housing or anything of such, just the element only
https://www.harley-davidson.com/stor...18-29400293--1
will the bike need to be re-tuned? is it a must or can I live without the re-tuning? Thanks all!
https://vanceandhines.com/products/t...31533691764783
so with that being said, those pipes with this filter, filter element only, no new housing or anything of such, just the element only
https://www.harley-davidson.com/stor...18-29400293--1
will the bike need to be re-tuned? is it a must or can I live without the re-tuning? Thanks all!
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Your butt will tell you if you need to tune it afterwards. A dip in power in a certain range, etc. is something you can feel. If it does, you can dial it in with a Screamin' Eagle tuner and keep your warranty safe.
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Good to know. SE tuner, hard to use or do for a beginner aka first HD bike?
I just watched your video.. Pretty neat what you did with the airbox instead of getting #MeToo for 185.00
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Just my 2 cents...on my 114 FXLRS, I used the screaming eagle tuner after I installed a Two Brothers Comp-S full exhaust (very high flowing) and I noticed absolutely zero difference before and after the tune. No decel pop before or after, no difference what so ever for me after my canned SE tune was loaded. Maybe a dyno would show differently, but I doubt by much of anything. Just my 2 cents on what I personally felt before and after a SE tune.
With just those slip ons added, I highly doubt a SE tuner is required for the bike to run appropriately. Just my 2 cents, I've found the M8 Motors to be very resilient to exhaust changes without a retune, where the twin cams would pop, back fire, lugg, stall, etc. when you changed the exhaust and didn't retune. There have been numerous posts and videos where people added slip ons to their M8s and did not retune and the bike ran just fine. You'll notice a difference in the exhaust tone no doubt either way.
Now if you tuned with a non-EPA compliant Power Vision tune for instance, you would notice a difference no doubt and there are plenty of dyno charts to prove that a non-EPA compliant tune and exhaust produce decent results on the 114 M8.
With just those slip ons added, I highly doubt a SE tuner is required for the bike to run appropriately. Just my 2 cents, I've found the M8 Motors to be very resilient to exhaust changes without a retune, where the twin cams would pop, back fire, lugg, stall, etc. when you changed the exhaust and didn't retune. There have been numerous posts and videos where people added slip ons to their M8s and did not retune and the bike ran just fine. You'll notice a difference in the exhaust tone no doubt either way.
Now if you tuned with a non-EPA compliant Power Vision tune for instance, you would notice a difference no doubt and there are plenty of dyno charts to prove that a non-EPA compliant tune and exhaust produce decent results on the 114 M8.
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Just my 2 cents...on my 114 FXLRS, I used the screaming eagle tuner after I installed a Two Brothers Comp-S full exhaust (very high flowing) and I noticed absolutely zero difference before and after the tune. No decel pop before or after, no difference what so ever for me after my canned SE tune was loaded. Maybe a dyno would show differently, but I doubt by much of anything. Just my 2 cents on what I personally felt before and after a SE tune.
With just those slip ons added, I highly doubt a SE tuner is required for the bike to run appropriately. Just my 2 cents, I've found the M8 Motors to be very resilient to exhaust changes without a retune, where the twin cams would pop, back fire, lugg, stall, etc. when you changed the exhaust and didn't retune. There have been numerous posts and videos where people added slip ons to their M8s and did not retune and the bike ran just fine. You'll notice a difference in the exhaust tone no doubt either way.
Now if you tuned with a non-EPA compliant Power Vision tune for instance, you would notice a difference no doubt and there are plenty of dyno charts to prove that a non-EPA compliant tune and exhaust produce decent results on the 114 M8.
With just those slip ons added, I highly doubt a SE tuner is required for the bike to run appropriately. Just my 2 cents, I've found the M8 Motors to be very resilient to exhaust changes without a retune, where the twin cams would pop, back fire, lugg, stall, etc. when you changed the exhaust and didn't retune. There have been numerous posts and videos where people added slip ons to their M8s and did not retune and the bike ran just fine. You'll notice a difference in the exhaust tone no doubt either way.
Now if you tuned with a non-EPA compliant Power Vision tune for instance, you would notice a difference no doubt and there are plenty of dyno charts to prove that a non-EPA compliant tune and exhaust produce decent results on the 114 M8.
what do you think if I roll pipes and a SE/K&N filter element?
btw, I do appreciate your 2 cents.
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I don't think it does...... the filter I have on it is stock and its white.
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I've done slip-ons only with no tuner and the bike (2019 Low Rider) ran great.
The 114 air air cleaner you already have flows more than you need for just slip-ons, save your $$$.
I changed to a full exhaust and tuner but left the air cleaner alone on my current 114, I'm very happy.
The 114 air air cleaner you already have flows more than you need for just slip-ons, save your $$$.
I changed to a full exhaust and tuner but left the air cleaner alone on my current 114, I'm very happy.