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Old Apr 25, 2021 | 07:44 PM
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Thinking about buying a new Softtail Slim but have a couple of concerns:

The M-8 engine.

Have they fixed the sumping issue?

What about the oil transfer between transmission and primary?

What about the ABS lockup issue.?

How is the heat issue when sitting at a light in Florida in the summertime?



These issues have been around since the advent of the M-8 so My gut says they have fixed them but would like to here it from the experts here.



What other issues concerning this model should I be aware of?

And lastly What price should I expect to pay? One dealer I stopped at quoted me $2000 over MSRP. F## that.
 
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Forgot to mention. Looking for Cruise control and a small Wind shield. Are these options?
 
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Old Apr 25, 2021 | 08:48 PM
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I have a ‘19 Heritage and haven’t experienced any of the issues you mention. The Softails have a cable clutch and don’t have the fluid transfer issue that a few touring bikes have had. My bike doesn’t have the latest oil pump (that appeared in June of ‘19) but has never “sumped”.

The engine does seem to run hot, but Harley-Davidson did a pretty good job of managing heat to keep it away from the rider. It’s no worse than my old Evo and much better in that regard than Twin Cams I’ve ridden. The only time I really notice the engine heat is when I park the bike in the garage after a ride.

The only issues I’ve had with my Heritage is a constant issue with moisture in the speedometer, a noisy rear belt, and air in the rear brake line, causing loss of the rear brake. Bleeding the brakes seems to have fixed it.

Cruise control is already in the ECM. You need to buy the switch kit and have the function enabled by the dealer.

Otherwise, the bike has been so reliable as to be almost boring. If you want the bike, I say buy it, ride it and don’t worry.
 
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Originally Posted by Rustyg500
Thinking about buying a new Softtail Slim but have a couple of concerns:

The M-8 engine.

Have they fixed the sumping issue?

What about the oil transfer between transmission and primary?

What about the ABS lockup issue.?

How is the heat issue when sitting at a light in Florida in the summertime?



These issues have been around since the advent of the M-8 so My gut says they have fixed them but would like to here it from the experts here.



What other issues concerning this model should I be aware of?

And lastly What price should I expect to pay? One dealer I stopped at quoted me $2000 over MSRP. F## that.
They're nice bikes OP, as far as price goes try shopping around. Personally I'd go for the 114 Street Bob, a bigger engine with cool graphics and it's only 2 grand more.
Edit: Sorry, you said softail slim, I was thinking about the 13k base model
 

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Originally Posted by Rustyg500
Thinking about buying a new Softtail Slim but have a couple of concerns:

The M-8 engine.

Have they fixed the sumping issue?

What about the oil transfer between transmission and primary?

What about the ABS lockup issue.?

How is the heat issue when sitting at a light in Florida in the summertime?

These issues have been around since the advent of the M-8 so My gut says they have fixed them but would like to here it from the experts here.
All the issues you mention are fixed. Yes, the bike will be hot sitting still in the Florida heat.
 
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Old Apr 26, 2021 | 06:41 AM
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Thanks guys. Now on to find a dealer that won't rip me off. The one dealer I stopped at wanted $2000 over MSRP. No way Jose.
 
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Old Apr 26, 2021 | 09:22 AM
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FWIW, I was OTD for $700 less than MSRP on a colored Fat Bob less than 3 weeks ago (6.25% tax here). There's a more recent thread or two around here on negotiating deals (can't remember where I saw it), that I read after buying my bike - it basically boils down to reaching out to dealers to see if they are willing to work with you and a willingness to travel if necessary. From what I've gathered since - I think I did pretty average as far as good deals go and most importantly, I'm happy with the deal.

I didn't do any of that, I was fortunate to walk into a dealership just to check out bikes and they gave me my, "what's it gonna take to not leave here without the bike" price. I also asked for, and received, 10% off on parts and labor, to get the deal done, separately from my deal on the bike.

Good luck on your search
 
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Old Apr 26, 2021 | 07:18 PM
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Lets put it this way, ive owned 2 m8 bikes. Never an issue. My friends have m8 bikes and never an issue... imo, the 'issues' were all exagerated..
 
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Yes, all fixed. Now, as soon as God or Man makes it cooler in Florida summers, I'll be happy.
 
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