Eq in Tour Pack or Bag
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Eq in Tour Pack or Bag
Ok, probably a stupid question because no one is running one but...Could an equalizer be run between a Rushmore HU and amp instead of or after line levelers? My front HU output sounds like shix and I am running everything off the rear through a LL then split into both inputs of a bt4180(I still use front and rear output out of the amp just no fade). It's the only way I can get my front and rear to sound the same. I tried swapping front and rear and just having fade be backwards but then I might as well just not run my rear pods at all it sounds that bad(and yes everything is in phase). BabyBoy recommended I try adjusting the front HPF LL as he had a similar problem and I have yet to pop my hood and give it a try but it got me thinking about why no one uses an EQ?
It might be that using an EQ in real time is impossible if it is in the tour pack or not mounted in the dash or on the bars. You could "set it and forget it" but that's is more theory than practice. I've never been a fan of dash mounted EQ's when I was big into car stereo. I always preferred a pre-amp (Linear Power and Rockford Fosgate had nice ones) but those are probably not as useful in a smaller set up on a bike.
What kind of noise/distortion problem are you having with the front speaker output? Could be a grounding issue...a ground loop or the need for a ground loop (Really, this happens)
What kind of noise/distortion problem are you having with the front speaker output? Could be a grounding issue...a ground loop or the need for a ground loop (Really, this happens)
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Originally Posted by Greatsteaks
Ok, probably a stupid question because no one is running one but...Could an equalizer be run between a Rushmore HU and amp instead of or after line levelers? My front HU output sounds like shix and I am running everything off the rear through a LL then split into both inputs of a bt4180(I still use front and rear output out of the amp just no fade). It's the only way I can get my front and rear to sound the same. I tried swapping front and rear and just having fade be backwards but then I might as well just not run my rear pods at all it sounds that bad(and yes everything is in phase). BabyBoy recommended I try adjusting the front HPF LL as he had a similar problem and I have yet to pop my hood and give it a try but it got me thinking about why no one uses an EQ?
First, consider the enclosures these speaks are mounted in. Night and day difference from pod to fairing. Have u put dynomat on the outer fairing? Ever consider FAST Rings? LL Gains? LL HPF?
If u can break the code on the EQ, that would be huge!!! Ur gonna have to cut HD wires so take ur time thinking this thru. It has been on my list for a long damn time but got things dialed in pretty good without one so it went to the bottom of the long list.
T.
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Originally Posted by PapaThiele
It might be that using an EQ in real time is impossible if it is in the tour pack or not mounted in the dash or on the bars. You could "set it and forget it" but that's is more theory than practice. I've never been a fan of dash mounted EQ's when I was big into car stereo. I always preferred a pre-amp (Linear Power and Rockford Fosgate had nice ones) but those are probably not as useful in a smaller set up on a bike.
What kind of noise/distortion problem are you having with the front speaker output? Could be a grounding issue...a ground loop or the need for a ground loop (Really, this happens)
What kind of noise/distortion problem are you having with the front speaker output? Could be a grounding issue...a ground loop or the need for a ground loop (Really, this happens)
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Yes
I'm actually looking at a Fosgate 3SIXTY.3 but not sure I can justify the cost... yet
My idea is to mount it under my radio. Yes this means I need to put amp in the bag or run 2 smaller amps in the pockets on the side of the RG radio
I'm actually looking at a Fosgate 3SIXTY.3 but not sure I can justify the cost... yet
My idea is to mount it under my radio. Yes this means I need to put amp in the bag or run 2 smaller amps in the pockets on the side of the RG radio
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Originally Posted by Tailwind
So when u say "sounds like shix" what exactly are u hearing that is so different in 2 identical sets of speakers? Hollow, bright, muddy?
First, consider the enclosures these speaks are mounted in. Night and day difference from pod to fairing. Have u put dynomat on the outer fairing? Ever consider FAST Rings? LL Gains? LL HPF?
If u can break the code on the EQ, that would be huge!!! Ur gonna have to cut HD wires so take ur time thinking this thru. It has been on my list for a long damn time but got things dialed in pretty good without one so it went to the bottom of the long list.
T.
First, consider the enclosures these speaks are mounted in. Night and day difference from pod to fairing. Have u put dynomat on the outer fairing? Ever consider FAST Rings? LL Gains? LL HPF?
If u can break the code on the EQ, that would be huge!!! Ur gonna have to cut HD wires so take ur time thinking this thru. It has been on my list for a long damn time but got things dialed in pretty good without one so it went to the bottom of the long list.
T.
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Thought I had a bad HU. Bought it cheap(er) second hand when I upgraded from the 4.3 that came with my bike, so no warrantee. Then I read that BT and some others had a problem too.
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Look into the JL cleensweep. It is discontinued but still out there. Would replace the line levers though. Honestly I would not get to big of a hurry looking into a dsp or eq as something doesn't sound right from your description.
http://www.jlaudio.com/cl441dsp-car-...egration-98110
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Originally Posted by slyedog
Look into the JL cleensweep. It is discontinued but still out there. Would replace the line levers though. Honestly I would not get to big of a hurry looking into a dsp or eq as something doesn't sound right from your description.
http://www.jlaudio.com/cl441dsp-car-...egration-98110
http://www.jlaudio.com/cl441dsp-car-...egration-98110
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Ok, thanks to BabyBoy's suggestion I was able to equal the front Chanel to the rear with the HPF and the tweeter adjustment on the focal KRC's crossover. I turned the HPF ccwise about 1/8 then had to raise the tweeter from -6 to 0 and raise the gain from 12 o'clock to 12:30-12:45? On just the front LL, now it's very very close(to my ears at least) no fancy meters, no voltage testing, just my crappy old ears. It actually took the bright that I had at highway speed down a notch. Maybe I'm learning something or maybe I made things worst to others ears but now I have a fade function back for nothing else then to be able to test different speakers front to rear.
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