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Old Jun 26, 2018 | 07:13 AM
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OP, take ur time on this brother. Ur getting lots on info here but not much substance.

If u don't like the BT Speaks in the fairing ur gonna hate the DD VO 6.5.

U stated u like the Alpine sound thus ur gonna want a more full range sound for your fairing.

Listening to a vid of some dude throwing 3-400 watts to Hertz speakers is just bad info. What amp and what Hertz?

Broad brush recommendations of Sounddigital, Hertz and Beyma sounds like someone is selling product and not really interested in what ur ears like. Again, if u don't like the bright BT Titans then throwing 4 PA speakers and horns on your sled is gonna sound like complete garbage for your ears. Furthermore, what specific SD amp? What Hertz speaker and where, what Beyma speaker and where?

AWs are a damn good speaker but u MUST have a ton of power to get them in their wheelhouse.

If $1000 is ur budget u gonna have to do some aggressive thinking.
The amp is limiting for next tier audio.
The BT Speaks have to go.
If u are going with horns u absolutely have to have them fed on their own amp channels in order to properly manage their output.
Where are u going to mount the horns?
Are you going to get a DSP to properly tune these PA speakers u are mentioning?
Does the stuff ur gonna buy have to be waterproof?
Are you willing to ditch the HD fairing pods?
Are u willing to put a micro amp under the hood to feed horns?

Ur a long way from pulling the trigger on anything brother so take your time, listen to various sled audio setups, then build a well vetted one and done plan that meets your ears needs, matches ur riding style, genres, budget, prior opening ur wallet.

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Old Jun 26, 2018 | 07:20 AM
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Originally Posted by Tailwind
OP, take ur time on this brother. Ur getting lots on info here but not much substance.

If u don't like the BT Speaks in the fairing ur gonna hate the DD VO 6.5.

U stated u like the Alpine sound thus ur gonna want a more full range sound for your fairing.

Listening to a vid of some dude throwing 3-400 watts to Hertz speakers is just bad info. What amp and what Hertz?

Broad brush recommendations of Sounddigital, Hertz and Beyma sounds like someone is selling product and not really interested in what ur ears like. Again, if u don't like the bright BT Titans then throwing 4 PA speakers and horns on your sled is gonna sound like complete garbage for your ears. Furthermore, what specific SD amp? What Hertz speaker and where, what Beyma speaker and where?

AWs are a damn good speaker but u MUST have a ton of power to get them in their wheelhouse.

If $1000 is ur budget u gonna have to do some aggressive thinking.
The amp is limiting for next tier audio.
The BT Speaks have to go.
If u are going with horns u absolutely have to have them fed on their own amp channels in order to properly manage their output.
Where are u going to mount the horns?
Are you going to get a DSP to properly tune these PA speakers u are mentioning?
Does the stuff ur gonna buy have to be waterproof?
Are you willing to ditch the HD fairing pods?
Are u willing to put a micro amp under the hood to feed horns?

Ur a long way from pulling the trigger on anything brother so take your time, listen to various sled audio setups, then build a well vetted one and done plan that meets your ears needs, matches ur riding style, genres, budget, prior opening ur wallet.

T
and if you already have the BT4180 amp, it will resell quickly and fetch a decent price as they are a great amp for basic upgrades, so you can also figure that into ur budget as well
 
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Old Jun 26, 2018 | 08:03 AM
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Originally Posted by Tailwind
OP, take ur time on this brother. Ur getting lots on info here but not much substance.

If u don't like the BT Speaks in the fairing ur gonna hate the DD VO 6.5.

U stated u like the Alpine sound thus ur gonna want a more full range sound for your fairing.

Listening to a vid of some dude throwing 3-400 watts to Hertz speakers is just bad info. What amp and what Hertz?

Broad brush recommendations of Sounddigital, Hertz and Beyma sounds like someone is selling product and not really interested in what ur ears like. Again, if u don't like the bright BT Titans then throwing 4 PA speakers and horns on your sled is gonna sound like complete garbage for your ears. Furthermore, what specific SD amp? What Hertz speaker and where, what Beyma speaker and where?

AWs are a damn good speaker but u MUST have a ton of power to get them in their wheelhouse.

If $1000 is ur budget u gonna have to do some aggressive thinking.
The amp is limiting for next tier audio.
The BT Speaks have to go.
If u are going with horns u absolutely have to have them fed on their own amp channels in order to properly manage their output.
Where are u going to mount the horns?
Are you going to get a DSP to properly tune these PA speakers u are mentioning?
Does the stuff ur gonna buy have to be waterproof?
Are you willing to ditch the HD fairing pods?
Are u willing to put a micro amp under the hood to feed horns?

Ur a long way from pulling the trigger on anything brother so take your time, listen to various sled audio setups, then build a well vetted one and done plan that meets your ears needs, matches ur riding style, genres, budget, prior opening ur wallet.

T
That's why I came to the forums to get advice and other options instead of FB and having guys say you have to buy xyz but they have no reason for why it should be the one. I honestly don't remember what Hertz were in the videos. I'm not looking for a competition system but if I'm gonna replace what I have I want it to be worth my time and sound better than what I have currently.
 
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Old Jun 26, 2018 | 08:22 AM
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Originally Posted by conn-e-rot
That's why I came to the forums to get advice and other options instead of FB and having guys say you have to buy xyz but they have no reason for why it should be the one. I honestly don't remember what Hertz were in the videos. I'm not looking for a competition system but if I'm gonna replace what I have I want it to be worth my time and sound better than what I have currently.
As far as hertz go, the mpx are bright as hell with ear piercing highs. The hcx are much better with the highs. Both will take as much power as you want to give them and are bullet proof but a good set of pa mids with horns will allow you a better tuning option suited to your likings. As T eluded too, take your time, listen to different setups ten go for it. The problem is, you just may have just fallen into that mythical unicorn hunt only being satisfied for a bit then looking to upgrade again.
 

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Old Jun 26, 2018 | 08:45 AM
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I believe the Hertz we're sv165 and st25 front but don't remember the rear and can't find the video right now
 
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Old Jun 26, 2018 | 08:53 AM
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Originally Posted by Louie Bailey
Hertz or Beyma would be my choice. You will need some spacers in the rear pack. Power them correctly and you will be happy.
Louie's bike is a monster. If you hear his bike, you will never be satisfied.
 
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Old Jun 26, 2018 | 10:09 AM
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Originally Posted by flcusat
Louie's bike is a monster. If you hear his bike, you will never be satisfied.
My ex-wife is a monster as well but that has nothing to do with regular joe sled audio. Pushing a brand you sell and use without any other details such as the strategy behind using said product is useless to the OP. Especially when those products are well over the OP's budget. I have no idea who Louie Bailey is as I'm sure most here don't. The overwhelming majority here is not into the competition scene. If I had to guess I'd say he's probably a pretty good fella but he'll have to provide more info on his suggestions because the average Joe is gonna want to know why he should go that route. New ideas and new ways of looking at build strategies are always welcome here. Pushing the envelope is always a good thing but acting like your all that and a biscuit doesn't bode well here.
 
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Old Jun 26, 2018 | 11:03 AM
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Originally Posted by conn-e-rot
One of the other threads or a FB post said dsp and bt4180 is pointless because the amp adjusts internally and will change what the dsp is sending?? So not sure there
There is nothing inside a 4180 that would change the settings of a DSP! I have used the Kenwood 998 with a built in DSP and the 4180 does not change any setting! The 4180 has a filter not allowing any frequencies below 45 Hz, which you won't use anyway with 6.5's and 6x9's, and no gains for voltage adjustment! These are the only limiting factor that the 4180 has. If you do not like the Titan II's in your fairing just replace those first, unless you really want to change your whole set up! Gan's recommended set up with JL, AW, and B3 horns is a good place to start, but I would use the JL 600/6, bridging the front 4 channels 1-2 & 3-4 for the fairing and using 5-6 for your rear platform!
 
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