How much power is left on the table.
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How much power is left on the table.
As the title states, How much power are you leaving on the table?
I have gotten a few PM's lately. (not complaining ask away)
A properly planned system should take advantage of your amps full potential.
I see some guys saying they are running "X amp, and it has X power rms" and then ask what speakers they are running and actually only getting half of their possible power out of a amp.
I know a lot of people worry about stereo sound vs mono sound. I used to be that guy too!
On a Harley our speakers are 3 feet apart in a open air environment, Then add moving at 50+ Mph. Can our ears really pick this up? (I am Deaf)
Juice
I have gotten a few PM's lately. (not complaining ask away)
A properly planned system should take advantage of your amps full potential.
I see some guys saying they are running "X amp, and it has X power rms" and then ask what speakers they are running and actually only getting half of their possible power out of a amp.
I know a lot of people worry about stereo sound vs mono sound. I used to be that guy too!
On a Harley our speakers are 3 feet apart in a open air environment, Then add moving at 50+ Mph. Can our ears really pick this up? (I am Deaf)
Juice
I would rather leave a little on the table , rather than not have enough.
I'm an old car audio guy and used to get by with a lot less power than most people did, and still had more than enough.
This bike world is definitely a new adventure for me. I've come to the conclusion you need at least 100 watts a speaker minimum, and more like a 125 watts +, to really do a cruising bike justice. Providing it's a decent amp, and decent speakers.
I'm an old car audio guy and used to get by with a lot less power than most people did, and still had more than enough.
This bike world is definitely a new adventure for me. I've come to the conclusion you need at least 100 watts a speaker minimum, and more like a 125 watts +, to really do a cruising bike justice. Providing it's a decent amp, and decent speakers.
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I would rather leave a little on the table , rather than not have enough.
I'm an old car audio guy and used to get by with a lot less power than most people did, and still had more than enough.
This bike world is definitely a new adventure for me. I've come to the conclusion you need at least 100 watts a speaker minimum, and more like a 125 watts +, to really do a cruising bike justice. Providing it's a decent amp, and decent speakers.
I'm an old car audio guy and used to get by with a lot less power than most people did, and still had more than enough.
This bike world is definitely a new adventure for me. I've come to the conclusion you need at least 100 watts a speaker minimum, and more like a 125 watts +, to really do a cruising bike justice. Providing it's a decent amp, and decent speakers.
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Dude two years ago I tried to share the ideas of running mono vs stereo and I was told by the resident experts that mono sucked and there was no point using 8ohm speakers on a bike. Even threads like this were created to crap on the idea:
https://www.hdforums.com/forum/audio...-speakers.html
I commend you for giving a stab at it two years later. I hope guys come around. I think its this stubbornness that has stagnated the creativity of the forum. Coulda been there two years ago.
https://www.hdforums.com/forum/audio...-speakers.html
I commend you for giving a stab at it two years later. I hope guys come around. I think its this stubbornness that has stagnated the creativity of the forum. Coulda been there two years ago.
Last edited by haze324; Jun 1, 2019 at 11:58 AM.
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I'm that guy who want to run stereo. The reason I am is that most audio is recorded in stereo and blended to sound better. If I run mono off 1 side of a stereo output then I may be missing some aspects of the recording. For instance, if running mono then I miss half of the beginning of China Grove from the Doobies. Same with some Led Zepplin songs. Am I wrong for thinking that way?
Fairly new to the game, I can see why the CV B52, B54, NVX Nad4, SS PN4.1000D and the Stinger 700 get a lot of recommendations. There's enough watts there to start building a decent system on, at a good price point. Maybe a guy ends up leaving a little power on the table with some speakers, maybe not enough for others, which you hopefully a guy tries to avoid using due to limitations, but should have enough power to give a guy a good base for a variety of options. There are most certainly bigger, better amps, more watts, better quality, all usually at a higher price point.
Myself, I run a JL HD 900.5 in my truck, and think the JL MHD900.4 would make a great bike amp if it fit in the fairing, and wasn't so pricey.
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I'm that guy who want to run stereo. The reason I am is that most audio is recorded in stereo and blended to sound better. If I run mono off 1 side of a stereo output then I may be missing some aspects of the recording. For instance, if running mono then I miss half of the beginning of China Grove from the Doobies. Same with some Led Zepplin songs. Am I wrong for thinking that way?
Gypsye,
The thing with the DSP is you can Sum left and right.
So yes you can get that drum solo from the left and it will play blended through both speakers.
Juice
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Originally Posted by haze324
Dude two years ago I tried to share the ideas of running mono vs stereo and I was told by the resident experts that mono sucked and there was no point using 8ohm speakers on a bike. Even threads like this were created to crap on the idea:.
The 8 ohm strategy has it place, but how big is that market? How much flexibility does it provide? How many 8 ohm coax are available? How much more power does it take to get to the same dB on an 8 ohm vs 4 ohm vs 2 ohm speakers. All valid questions and they have been answered in various locations over the years but damn good on u Juice to draw some attention to the build strategy discussion!!!
Maybe this attempt will provide some additional insight since the sled audio industry has matured a bit.
Disclaimer, I run 8 ohm speakers. But why?
T
