Optimize my sound system
What is your actual purpose here haze324? Do you have an actual suggestion? Maybe just describe the monster setup you have and I can copy it exactly.
Ive asked no less than four times in this thread what you think I should do. Youve taken the time to compose two messages that have a combined practical value of F^ck@LL. Your wit notwithstanding, do you have anything productive to add or are you just practicing your troll skills where you cant add any actual value so you just **** on everything as you troll by?
Thanks for being so helpful. Ill take the great advice youve given and put it right to work.
Ive asked no less than four times in this thread what you think I should do. Youve taken the time to compose two messages that have a combined practical value of F^ck@LL. Your wit notwithstanding, do you have anything productive to add or are you just practicing your troll skills where you cant add any actual value so you just **** on everything as you troll by?
Thanks for being so helpful. Ill take the great advice youve given and put it right to work.
The speakers in the fairing need 110 watts, you are currently only giving them along with the tweeters approximately 80 watts. Your 6x9s are also getting approximately 80 watts each. Your wife says they are loud, but the big question is do you think they are loud enough when she is not on the bike?
You have a DSR 1 capable of decent tuning in good hands by someone like Haze.
You are extremely under powered on all of your speakers.
No doubt you are probably frustrated, I would be as well after spending that kind of cash.
I have not used any of your current choices, but the Hertz SV165 SPL and the ST25 have been popular in the past.
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To be honest, Haze has probably given you the best advice......pack it all back up and send it back to AHB. You have trusted them with your hard earned $$$ and unfortunately the system they sold you right from the beginning is very poorly set up. I haven't used any of the current equipment you are using, but just looking at the specs alone I see issues. The amp you have now barely has the power to run 4 high efficiency coax speakers. No where near the power needed to run 6 speakers plus 4 horns. The way you are configured you are currently giving your Hertz in the lowers around 80 watts each. They are going to need at least double that.
The speakers in the fairing need 110 watts, you are currently only giving them along with the tweeters approximately 80 watts. Your 6x9s are also getting approximately 80 watts each. Your wife says they are loud, but the big question is do you think they are loud enough when she is not on the bike?
You have a DSR 1 capable of decent tuning in good hands by someone like Haze.
You are extremely under powered on all of your speakers.
No doubt you are probably frustrated, I would be as well after spending that kind of cash.
I have not used any of your current choices, but the Hertz SV165 SPL and the ST25 have been popular in the past.
The speakers in the fairing need 110 watts, you are currently only giving them along with the tweeters approximately 80 watts. Your 6x9s are also getting approximately 80 watts each. Your wife says they are loud, but the big question is do you think they are loud enough when she is not on the bike?
You have a DSR 1 capable of decent tuning in good hands by someone like Haze.
You are extremely under powered on all of your speakers.
No doubt you are probably frustrated, I would be as well after spending that kind of cash.
I have not used any of your current choices, but the Hertz SV165 SPL and the ST25 have been popular in the past.
- Remove the MPK passive cross-overs and small tweeters
- Put the DA MO75T horns up front in the upper fairing grills
- Leave the two MPK 6.5s in the upper fairing
- Leave the two SV 6.5s in the lower fairing
- Leave the Hybrid Audio 6x9s and ST25 horns in the lids
- Get another 4 channel amp (thinking Diamond Audio HXM800.4D or Maybe SD800.4s EVO and putting it in the fairing as amp 1 and moving the Micro84u to the saddlebag as amp 2)
- Put the two MPK 6.5s on Channels 1 & 2 of amp 1
- Put the two SV 6.5s on Channels 3 & 4 of amp 1
- Put the two 6x9s on Channels 1 & 2 of amp 2
- Put all four horns in parallel on Channels 3 & 4 of amp 2
- Reconfigure the DSR1 to account for the 8 channels. They felt that they could leverage the Sub outputs from the DSR1 for the two 6x9s. If not, Im debating on a second DSR1 OR pulling the DSR1 altogether and just using my BT Line Leveler to flatten the stock GTS EQ and controlling the tune from the amps.
Is this a horrible idea? How would you make it a better plan that I could use to order components this weekend? Do I need to get rid of the Micro84u entirely and get two 800 watt amps? Do I leave the Micro84u in the mix and get two additional amps and another DSR1? Should I literally pull it all out and sell the pieces on eBay? If I should, what should I put in its place?
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How about if I eliminate the lowers entirely, put the Dirty Bird Loud Pods with a set of 8”s and horns in the upper fairing and leave the Hybrid Technology 6x9s and ST25s in the lids? What amp(s) and 8”s would you suggest?
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Got it... current speaker setup is underpowered by one 660 watt amp... Does this correct the underpowered issue?
- Remove the MPK passive cross-overs and small tweeters
- Put the DA MO75T horns up front in the upper fairing grills
- Leave the two MPK 6.5s in the upper fairing
- Leave the two SV 6.5s in the lower fairing
- Leave the Hybrid Audio 6x9s and ST25 horns in the lids
- Get another 4 channel amp (thinking Diamond Audio HXM800.4D or Maybe SD800.4s EVO and putting it in the fairing as amp 1 and moving the Micro84u to the saddlebag as amp 2)
- Put the two MPK 6.5s on Channels 1 & 2 of amp 1
- Put the two SV 6.5s on Channels 3 & 4 of amp 1
- Put the two 6x9s on Channels 1 & 2 of amp 2
- Put all four horns in parallel on Channels 3 & 4 of amp 2
- Reconfigure the DSR1 to account for the 8 channels. They felt that they could leverage the Sub outputs from the DSR1 for the two 6x9s. If not, Im debating on a second DSR1 OR pulling the DSR1 altogether and just using my BT Line Leveler to flatten the stock GTS EQ and controlling the tune from the amps.
Is this a horrible idea? How would you make it a better plan that I could use to order components this weekend? Do I need to get rid of the Micro84u entirely and get two 800 watt amps? Do I leave the Micro84u in the mix and get two additional amps and another DSR1? Should I literally pull it all out and sell the pieces on eBay? If I should, what should I put in its place?
- Remove the MPK passive cross-overs and small tweeters
- Put the DA MO75T horns up front in the upper fairing grills
- Leave the two MPK 6.5s in the upper fairing
- Leave the two SV 6.5s in the lower fairing
- Leave the Hybrid Audio 6x9s and ST25 horns in the lids
- Get another 4 channel amp (thinking Diamond Audio HXM800.4D or Maybe SD800.4s EVO and putting it in the fairing as amp 1 and moving the Micro84u to the saddlebag as amp 2)
- Put the two MPK 6.5s on Channels 1 & 2 of amp 1
- Put the two SV 6.5s on Channels 3 & 4 of amp 1
- Put the two 6x9s on Channels 1 & 2 of amp 2
- Put all four horns in parallel on Channels 3 & 4 of amp 2
- Reconfigure the DSR1 to account for the 8 channels. They felt that they could leverage the Sub outputs from the DSR1 for the two 6x9s. If not, Im debating on a second DSR1 OR pulling the DSR1 altogether and just using my BT Line Leveler to flatten the stock GTS EQ and controlling the tune from the amps.
Is this a horrible idea? How would you make it a better plan that I could use to order components this weekend? Do I need to get rid of the Micro84u entirely and get two 800 watt amps? Do I leave the Micro84u in the mix and get two additional amps and another DSR1? Should I literally pull it all out and sell the pieces on eBay? If I should, what should I put in its place?
Ok you need to step back and take a breath. Not very many people run two DSPs. Your a long way from
having to do that. Like Haze and some others have said. Pack it up send it back or sell it all and start over. Unfortunately you were sold a system that just wont work with the components you have. Your scrambling for a quick answer and there isnt one. Demanding for us to fix your set up also isnt gonna help you get where you want to be. Get your head straight make a decision on selling some or all of what you have then come back with a budget and what your wanting out of your system.
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Ok you need to step back and take a breath. Not very many people run two DSPs. Your a long way from
having to do that. Like Haze and some others have said. Pack it up send it back or sell it all and start over. Unfortunately you were sold a system that just wont work with the components you have. Your scrambling for a quick answer and there isnt one. Demanding for us to fix your set up also isnt gonna help you get where you want to be. Get your head straight make a decision on selling some or all of what you have then come back with a budget and what your wanting out of your system.
having to do that. Like Haze and some others have said. Pack it up send it back or sell it all and start over. Unfortunately you were sold a system that just wont work with the components you have. Your scrambling for a quick answer and there isnt one. Demanding for us to fix your set up also isnt gonna help you get where you want to be. Get your head straight make a decision on selling some or all of what you have then come back with a budget and what your wanting out of your system.
ive posted several detailed build options and gotten zero feedback on any of them.
Im pretty sure everyone here know that boxing it up and returning it all isnt an option for installed audio components. Ive said Id pull any/all of what I have, but let me start over.
listed in the original post is what I have. Im married to none of it if it cant be leveraged, except the GTS head unit and soundz module for car play. That said seems inconceivable that none of it can be built around or reused cuz its not junk.
My goal is to have a fairly well rounded sound that I can hear on the highway, and turn it up when one of those songs comes on and youre just feeling it. I dont need to be the most amazing system in a Miami parking lot and dont intend to enter any contests, but I want a strong system that is better than the packaged systems, and better than the average bear, and I dont want to fill up my saddlebags because I ride this bike for real.
When I started this thread I thought maybe I just needed to add another amp or something to optimize my setup because it sounds better and louder than any of the packaged systems Ive run before, but Im completely willing to star over and take the loss.
So, if you had say $3,000 what would you do?
looking forward to hearing some system suggestions.
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good luck with audio sir.
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If you like the sound of what you have but its not loud enough, then add a second amp. Doing that will separate things for better control plus give each speaker more power. Moving the amp you have to power just the 6x9 and horns then putting the front on another amp is a good place to start with less investment. Mastering the dsp to tune it to your ear is also huge. You could be getting distortion early due to poor tune.
I think the biggest reason you havent gotten a lot of advice is because not many people here have experience with those components in your system so its hard to give accurate advice.
I think the biggest reason you havent gotten a lot of advice is because not many people here have experience with those components in your system so its hard to give accurate advice.
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Totally agree with Inthewind
Getting everything on their own channel (which provides sufficient power based on the speakers needs) will improve your overall system once tuned. You can probably get away with running the 4 horns on a pair of channels, but everything else should be on their own channel because of the different sensitivity and frequency response they all have. This will also allow each pair to be tuned with the DSR-1.
Write down each speakers power requirements then find an amp that will deliver that in the wiring configuration you will use. This is not difficult, but will take some time and patience surfing around to find your answer. Good luck.
Zach
Getting everything on their own channel (which provides sufficient power based on the speakers needs) will improve your overall system once tuned. You can probably get away with running the 4 horns on a pair of channels, but everything else should be on their own channel because of the different sensitivity and frequency response they all have. This will also allow each pair to be tuned with the DSR-1.
Write down each speakers power requirements then find an amp that will deliver that in the wiring configuration you will use. This is not difficult, but will take some time and patience surfing around to find your answer. Good luck.
Zach
If you like the sound of what you have but its not loud enough, then add a second amp. Doing that will separate things for better control plus give each speaker more power. Moving the amp you have to power just the 6x9 and horns then putting the front on another amp is a good place to start with less investment. Mastering the dsp to tune it to your ear is also huge. You could be getting distortion early due to poor tune.
I think the biggest reason you havent gotten a lot of advice is because not many people here have experience with those components in your system so its hard to give accurate advice.
I think the biggest reason you havent gotten a lot of advice is because not many people here have experience with those components in your system so its hard to give accurate advice.