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Old Feb 28, 2020 | 11:52 AM
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I am wondering about running the Mmats PA601.4 in the lowers and PA601CX in the upper paralell off my Arc 600.4. I want to run 6 speakers and currently don't feel like adding another amp. My rear TP speakers are the Polk MM522.

Looking for options. Don't really feel like spending anymore $ on this. I also have a set of HCX165 and SP6.5CM
 
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Only way to know for sure is try it and see what happens, then try lowers and tp parallel and finally fairing and and tp together. You might find a combo that works for you.
 
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Only way to know for sure is try it and see what happens, then try lowers and tp parallel and finally fairing and and tp together. You might find a combo that works for you.
Agree. I am thinking of playing with it this weekend.
 
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Old Feb 28, 2020 | 12:23 PM
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You could try it and see but I think you will be disappointed. That amp puts out the same 2 or 4 ohm so the parallel set will get 75w each. Not really idea for this environment.
 
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I have tried the parallel trick with the scenarios described and found that I could never get all six locations to "blend".

The fairing speakers are closest to you and pointing directly at your head so they don't usually need as many watts as other locations. The lowers are farther away and not pointed at your head so they need more wattage to blend with the fairing even if those speakers are identical (in the scenario described they are not). The tour pak pods are pointed at your back so they will need not only a different amount of wattage but often a different tune to blend.

I have the Arc amp on my fairing and lowers (fairing speakers on channels 1 and 2 and lowers on channels 3 and 4) and I love it. Good clean power that is kind to FM reception. If you can bring yourself around to adding another amp the Stinger 350 might be a good one for the pods. That way you could tune each set of speakers independently for the best sound.

By all means try it out we always learn things from experimenting, but I thought I'd pass along what I had learned. The fact that none of the speakers in this equation match each other is a wild card indeed.
 
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I have tried the parallel trick with the scenarios described and found that I could never get all six locations to "blend".

The fairing speakers are closest to you and pointing directly at your head so they don't usually need as many watts as other locations. The lowers are farther away and not pointed at your head so they need more wattage to blend with the fairing even if those speakers are identical (in the scenario described they are not). The tour pak pods are pointed at your back so they will need not only a different amount of wattage but often a different tune to blend.

I have the Arc amp on my fairing and lowers (fairing speakers on channels 1 and 2 and lowers on channels 3 and 4) and I love it. Good clean power that is kind to FM reception. If you can bring yourself around to adding another amp the Stinger 350 might be a good one for the pods. That way you could tune each set of speakers independently for the best sound.

By all means try it out we always learn things from experimenting, but I thought I'd pass along what I had learned. The fact that none of the speakers in this equation match each other is a wild card indeed.
Are you sure that’s where all those speakers point? 😂😂
 
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what speakers are you using in the tp pods? you might hae better luck running the tp pods and the lowers together. kinda depends on what you are running in the rear, another option would be to get 2 more of the cx speakers and put them in the lowers, with 75 watts they still get pretty loud.
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or try to find a component that will filter out any higher frequenciess 5-6k or higher and wire it in with the lower speakers, and leave them on 1-2.
 

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Agree. I am thinking of playing with it this weekend.
Let us know what you find. I know what those tp speakers do with 75 watts if you meant the mm652.
 

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Are you sure that’s where all those speakers point? 😂😂
My bikes are usually "different" from what the Moco produced. That and my skeletal structure is more aligned to simian than sapien.

In reconsidering that the OP has the 601.4s in the lowers I can say that with my tune those speakers gobble up every bit of the 150w I am feeding them from the Arc 600.4. I even had to boost the voltage going to them with the line driver of my PSM so they could keep up with the Motos in the fairing. If the OP does not have any way to tune out the higher frequencies they will may get loud with 75w, but those speakers don't sound very clean when you feed them frequencies they were not intended to reproduce. I tried them without a bandpass on them for a bit and they really didn't sound good. They are PA speakers after all and generally need to have a tune put on them to shine as designed so to speak. If I remember correctly they are designed to play around 120 to 5000 Hz.

 
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