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Old Mar 21, 2015 | 10:42 AM
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Ricor Intiminators or cartridge drop in for aggressive dyna riding.

Thinking about drop ins or progressive springs and ricor intiminators which would be the best bang for the buck?
 
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Whatever you can afford.
I know using the Ricors and springs you choose you have a maintainable system rather than a closed system that you need to fork out the big bucks in the future when it wears.
I like having clean fluids and being able to maintain it.
I am a very aggressive rider and love them.
 
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Whatever you can afford.
I know using the Ricors and springs you choose you have a maintainable system rather than a closed system that you need to fork out the big bucks in the future when it wears.
I like having clean fluids and being able to maintain it.
I am a very aggressive rider and love them.
U run the ricors? What kind of springs do u use?
 
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Ricor intiminators and straight wound springs. That's what I am using in my friend end and love it. There's a thread with a post or two I started on it.
 
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A cartridge system with external adjust like what Ktech is offering will give you more control over the front end. Youll be able to adjust the preload, compression, and rebound without opening up anything. At $900 they are more money then the ricor stuff but I guess it's the price you pay to get fully adjustable forks.
 
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A cartridge system with external adjust like what Ktech is offering will give you more control over the front end. Youll be able to adjust the preload, compression, and rebound without opening up anything. At $900 they are more money then the ricor stuff but I guess it's the price you pay to get fully adjustable forks.

Couldnt u run ricors straight springs and adjustable caps And get the same effect?
 
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Couldnt u run ricors straight springs and adjustable caps And get the same effect?

No. You wouldnt have the ability to adjust the ricors without opening the forks. The caps would just adjust the preload. With the ktech cartridges you can adjust the compression and rebound damping with the turn of a screw driver without opening up anything. You also have the ability to adjust the preload.

In my experience the ability to adjust the compression and rebound is a nice thing to have but most street riders don't touch the adjusters. Either they are afraid to thinking they might mess something up or don't understand how to or how it changes the way the forks work. A lot of guys I know that race also don't touch the adjusters for the same reasons. They will come over to our garage after being on track for an adjustment.

If you understand how to use the adjusters and aren't afraid to change them to experiment (sometimes the bike feels worse) the cartridge system is better and easier to fine tune.
 
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No. You wouldnt have the ability to adjust the ricors without opening the forks. The caps would just adjust the preload. With the ktech cartridges you can adjust the compression and rebound damping with the turn of a screw driver without opening up anything. You also have the ability to adjust the preload.

In my experience the ability to adjust the compression and rebound is a nice thing to have but most street riders don't touch the adjusters. Either they are afraid to thinking they might mess something up or don't understand how to or how it changes the way the forks work. A lot of guys I know that race also don't touch the adjusters for the same reasons. They will come over to our garage after being on track for an adjustment.

If you understand how to use the adjusters and aren't afraid to change them to experiment (sometimes the bike feels worse) the cartridge system is better and easier to fine tune.

Ok this is the exact info im looking for. Would it be worth my while to get some works drop in cartridges over the ricors race tech springs and a preload adjuster?

I liked the price range of the progressives but i hear mixed results about them.


Can u drop si knowledge on how to fine tune some cartridges?

Also about how often would i have to swap out the cartridges as i am a daily rider who likes to have some fun on the weekends.
 
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Originally Posted by apetterez
Ok this is the exact info im looking for. Would it be worth my while to get some works drop in cartridges over the ricors race tech springs and a preload adjuster?

I liked the price range of the progressives but i hear mixed results about them.


Can u drop si knowledge on how to fine tune some cartridges?

Also about how often would i have to swap out the cartridges as i am a daily rider who likes to have some fun on the weekends.

If I had the extra money to spend I would get the Ktech drop in cartridge. Its a high quality unit then the progressive stuff. I think Orient express is the US distributor. http://www.orientexpress.com/p-20416...ridge-kit.aspx

On some of their kits you need to modify the inside of the forks. I don't know if thats the case or not with these.

As for installing them. I would suggest going to a pro for that. We could do it or you could find someone closer to you for that. Someone close to you would probably offer some tuning support. I know when we forks and shocks for people we offer free tuning with it. In other words you go out ride around and if you're not comfortable with adjusting the clickers you come back and we will help you with that. Best time to do it is after you have been riding for a bit so the oil is warm.

You don't swap out the cartridges unless something is wrong with them. You would get them serviced just like you would any other type of fork internal. Bring them to a suspension shop. Preferably the ones you have install them. They will take them apart, clean them, inspect them, and reassemble them. Should be as good as new when they are finished. At least that is what we do.

I would do mine on a street ride once a year. That's on any type of fork and shock. We have a few months of non riding weather so it's not painful to see the bike apart for a bit. I know some guys have never had their forks done. My dad is one of them even though I keep telling him I will do it for him. The performance degrades slowly over time and most people don't feel the difference because it does take time. The difference is felt once they get them freshly serviced.
 
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I'm very happy with my ricor/traxxion front end so far. Good bang for the buck.
 
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