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Old Jun 24, 2016 | 07:01 AM
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Stick with it Twospot, you can get it My throttle and idle cables are adjusted out to the point you'd think you'll run out of threading as well. Keep tweaking, you'll find the sweet spot.

If you can't find any cable lube try an aerosol dry lubricant. I like the dry lubes since they don't attract dirt and gunk. One thing on your 3rd image: notice all that black oily residue in the throttle body? That's from internally venting crankcase gasses; setting up your breathers to vent to atmosphere is a much better option. But let's get your cables taken care of first, then we'll move on to that project
 
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Old Jun 24, 2016 | 07:40 AM
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Originally Posted by cggorman
You'll get it! Thanks for being patient. That's the key.

Try this series of videos. I linked only to the 1st in the series.

Adjusting Throttle Cables on a Harley part 1 by Dr. Chaos - YouTube
Thanks CG! I've seen this series of videos and that is how I was doing it. Unless I misunderstood you and TCC, you were saying take up the idle slack first. It seems in this video and others I have seen you are adjusting throttle until you make contact with the stop. I think when I do it that way it is adjusted ok, but it is binding still. I will hopefully find some lube this morning and see if I can't get this squared away.

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Stick with it Twospot, you can get it My throttle and idle cables are adjusted out to the point you'd think you'll run out of threading as well. Keep tweaking, you'll find the sweet spot.

If you can't find any cable lube try an aerosol dry lubricant. I like the dry lubes since they don't attract dirt and gunk. One thing on your 3rd image: notice all that black oily residue in the throttle body? That's from internally venting crankcase gasses; setting up your breathers to vent to atmosphere is a much better option. But let's get your cables taken care of first, then we'll move on to that project
Thanks TCC! Yes I definitely agree about the external breather system. I actually have one on hand from DK that I want to install. I just need to figure out what to use to drill through the backing plate to run the tubing through. But as you said, let me get this simple task that I made a mountain out of complete.
 

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Old Jun 24, 2016 | 08:59 AM
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I can't imagine that it would make much difference whether you did idle or WOT first. They're both hard stops. You're just taking up the slack in relevant cable when both the throttle tube and throttle body are at the same hard stop.

SOME slack is required or you will bind.
 
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Old Jun 24, 2016 | 09:34 AM
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Originally Posted by cggorman
I can't imagine that it would make much difference whether you did idle or WOT first. They're both hard stops. You're just taking up the slack in relevant cable when both the throttle tube and throttle body are at the same hard stop.

SOME slack is required or you will bind.

This... when my cables are adjusted there's basically zero freeplay at the grip but if you were to gently jiggle the grip and watch the cables at the throttle body you can see that they move and wiggle slightly as well without affecting the throttle body cable cam moving it off the stops. Cam. Is that the right word? I dunno; it's that thingie the cables attach to at the throttle body
 
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Old Jun 24, 2016 | 11:41 AM
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I call it a cam, too. Not sure if it's actually eccentric but it works for me. It's not a bell crank and not quite a pulley... Maybe a follower? Mikuni calls it a "throttle lever". I dunno. Cam works for me.
 
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Old Jun 24, 2016 | 01:06 PM
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Would this junk do the trick? http://www.homedepot.com/p/Blaster-9...-TDL/202532762

4 shops and no one has any. WTF?
 
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Old Jun 24, 2016 | 01:14 PM
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I don't see why not.

Before we had all these high tech formulas we would just use grease or oil. They made adapters you clamped around the cable and sheath then you just pumped in grease. Or, some cables (tach, speedo) you could just pull out the cable core, smear it with grease, and slide it back in.


Really surprises me none of your powersports shops have cable lube! Almost every atv, bike, boat, and scooter has cables... Very odd.
 

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That will work but one thing; PB Blaster is going to leave a white residue behind when the aerosol carrier evaporates. The stuff is good and slick, I use it on the tracks and wheels for my garage doors but don't let it drool down the throttle body and on to the engine cases... yuck! I agree with with CG, I've got a Kawasaki and a Honda dealer within 1 mile and they're both covered up in fluids and lubricants... Jersey be strange, yo...

 
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Old Jun 24, 2016 | 02:03 PM
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They're not allowed to pump they're own gas, right? Environmental or Union reasons? If environmental, maybe these aerosol lubes fall under some obscure ban umbrella? Doesn't explain a lack of stuff like Dri-Slide, tho. It's non-aerosol.

Another option that should work well is a dry lock lube. Usually graphite based and also usually has pretty fine applicator nozzles. I've seen them in both aerosol and non-aerosol. I usually buy this type of stuff at the local Ace hardware. Small town. We don't have the big home improvement stores.
 
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Originally Posted by cggorman
They're not allowed to pump they're own gas, right? Environmental or Union reasons? If environmental, maybe these aerosol lubes fall under some obscure ban umbrella? Doesn't explain a lack of stuff like Dri-Slide, tho. It's non-aerosol.

Another option that should work well is a dry lock lube. Usually graphite based and also usually has pretty fine applicator nozzles. I've seen them in both aerosol and non-aerosol. I usually buy this type of stuff at the local Ace hardware. Small town. We don't have the big home improvement stores.
Lol technically it is "unlawful" to pump your own gas, but practically every motorcyclist does and plenty of caters too.

NJ does suck that's why we're considered the arm pit of the country. That's why a lot of shops don't have cable lube lol. I ended up finding a place about 45 minutes away that had PJ1 so I went and got it. Will try tonight hopefully.

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Jersey be strange, yo...

You got that right. I have about 6 years until the kids are out of high school. After that I'm checkin outta jersey.
 

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