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Well I called Bob Wood today and I kind of got the answer I thought I was going to get. He tells me that Top Line builds his lifter (Johnson Hy-lift).. So if I was to do anything I'd have to send them to top line.. Hell of a guy, I think I'm out four f ucking lifters.. Most expensive junk I've ever paid for lifters..
I Honestly believe they couldn't handle the lift of the 660 cams..
Also the things here is the only reason I put them in to begin with was because they were new and came with the 110 kit I got from Fuel Moto.. I was initially just going to resell them.. Wish I did...
Lesson here is, stick with tried and true..S&S .
Last edited by 98hotrodfatboy; May 23, 2024 at 10:03 PM.
One thing to note is that SNS and Woods lifters are built in the same place..
Personally I'd use travel limiters on a 660 lift cam.. 1/4 turn from bottomed..
@Max Headflow
If you have a set of limiters for the S&S Premiums, I'll buy them from you..
Honestly I've never had issues with OEM or S&S.. I disassembled the Woods lifters and also disassembled stock OEM lifter to do a comparison between the two lifters and in all honesty I think I'll take the OEMs over the Woods..
I will post a complete write up of what I found between the 2 later on today or tomorrow once I finalize it..
I did find out talking to Bob Wood that Topline Automotive/Hylift Johnson makes his lifters so I got to send them to them for any kind of warrantee..
Contact Larry at Larry's Motorcycle and Machine. He keeps limiters for the Hylift lifters. If the S&S are internally a Delphi style, he may or may not have any.
Also the S&S numbers are 33-5338 and 33-5339. Depends on if the lifters you have are a Hylift design or Delphi design. The Delphi has a smaller interior ID than the Hylift.
@Max Headflow
If you have a set of limiters for the S&S Premiums, I'll buy them from you..
Honestly I've never had issues with OEM or S&S.. I disassembled the Woods lifters and also disassembled stock OEM lifter to do a comparison between the two lifters and in all honesty I think I'll take the OEMs over the Woods..
I will post a complete write up of what I found between the 2 later on today or tomorrow once I finalize it..
I did find out talking to Bob Wood that Topline Automotive/Hylift Johnson makes his lifters so I got to send them to them for any kind of warrantee..
I have a set or 2 but don't remember which lifters they fit.. Contact Larry Yacko (WFOlarry). He'll know which ones to use and is closer..
The 99B lifters were considered the holy grail. IIRC the were made by Delphi but are non existent.. The 99C lifters are crap if you want any kind of performance work.. I've seen the roller pins come loose.. They don't swage the pin but use snip rings to hold the pin in place.. At 2000 miles I pulled the 99c lifters out of my 17 RK and installed Hylifts..
From what I've seen the newer SnS lifters are all made by Hylift.. So are Woods. They are made to those guys individual specs.
Contact Larry at Larry's Motorcycle and Machine. He keeps limiters for the Hylift lifters. If the S&S are internally a Delphi style, he may or may not have any.
Also the S&S numbers are 33-5338 and 33-5339. Depends on if the lifters you have are a Hylift design or Delphi design. The Delphi has a smaller interior ID than the Hylift.
I wasn't sure if he had the smaller limiters or not.
I could be wrong.. I'll bet hotrodfatboy needs the bigger ones anyway.. The smaller ones fit the Delphi lifters.. IIRC. All the later lifters use the big ones..
Now I'm not sure about the smaller ones.. The last set I used were out of a set of older lifters..
I could be wrong.. I'll bet hotrodfatboy needs the bigger ones anyway.. The smaller ones fit the Delphi lifters.. IIRC. All the later lifters use the big ones..
Now I'm not sure about the smaller ones.. The last set I used were out of a set of older lifters..
He may have the smaller ones, I seem to remember having bought some a long time back, but I could be wrong. That's why I said I'm not sure. I've bought the larger from Larry and know he has them.
And as far as the 'B' lifters, they are the bomb. Or I should say were the bomb. I have a set of NOS 'B' lifters in my 124 using limiters, quiet as can be.
A little update on my build..
The exhaust that I have on the bike is a Hooker that has an adjustable baffle, well today I thought I would close the port to wide open and take it for a ride.. I did like how much more quiet it was and also based on a data log that I did the AFR's where a bit more steady.. I pretty sure it's because the amount of reversion was reduced.. Well the down side of it was I did a test hit and lost .7 seconds in the 1/8 mile.. I went from 7.23 to 7.92.. Never even picked the front end up grabbing second gear.. Lesson hear is keep the exhaust open if you want more power.. Let it breath man.... LOl...
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