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Hey everyone.
I've been doing some research on the new Dynas. What are your thoughts on the 6-speed bearing maintenance issue? HD will inspect and replace it every 15,000mi. It sounds like they are staying on top of something just in case it becomes a problem, and that there may not even be a problem. Can this thing actually break while riding, or is it more of a maintenance issue?
Thanks to everyone and your great posts.
I've been doing some research on the new Dynas. What are your thoughts on the 6-speed bearing maintenance issue? HD will inspect and replace it every 15,000mi. It sounds like they are staying on top of something just in case it becomes a problem, and that there may not even be a problem. Can this thing actually break while riding, or is it more of a maintenance issue?
Thanks to everyone and your great posts.
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RE: 6-speed
Love it. It's nice to have 6. Plus since Harley has agreed to inspect and replace if necessary free of charge what's the issue??
People just don't seem to realize that this stuff if MECHANICAL. Mechanical things break. Have you ever had a car that has never had 1 single problem, not a single one, not even a latch breaking off of something? Everything breaks. I'm not concerned about the transmission. It's not like they made the gears and bearings out of graham crackers.
People just don't seem to realize that this stuff if MECHANICAL. Mechanical things break. Have you ever had a car that has never had 1 single problem, not a single one, not even a latch breaking off of something? Everything breaks. I'm not concerned about the transmission. It's not like they made the gears and bearings out of graham crackers.
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RE: 6-speed
ORIGINAL: PowerCobra98
Love it. It's nice to have 6. Plus since Harley has agreed to inspect and replace if necessary free of charge what's the issue??
People just don't seem to realize that this stuff if MECHANICAL. Mechanical things break. Have you ever had a car that has never had 1 single problem, not a single one, not even a latch breaking off of something? Everything breaks. I'm not concerned about the transmission. It's not like they made the gears and bearings out of graham crackers.
Love it. It's nice to have 6. Plus since Harley has agreed to inspect and replace if necessary free of charge what's the issue??
People just don't seem to realize that this stuff if MECHANICAL. Mechanical things break. Have you ever had a car that has never had 1 single problem, not a single one, not even a latch breaking off of something? Everything breaks. I'm not concerned about the transmission. It's not like they made the gears and bearings out of graham crackers.
Mechanical things do break, thats right, but HD has added alot of things that can now possibly "break" or is now more prone to wear in the transmission,thats not a step in the right direction. You never needed to replace bearings in transmissions before every 15k. I have probably replaced only a handful of drive shaft bearings on the older style transmission from failure, and these were very high miliage bikes. I have gathered that the new transmission costs HD only about half as much to mfg. as the the older style 5 speed. So who here is the real benefactor? The share holders.
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RE: 6-speed
Here's a pennies worth of opinion...
I haven't heard of such a problem in:
1.) Victory six-speeds
2.) Baker six-speeds
3.) Any Japanese six-speeds
4.) Any other Harley trannies
I appreciate the fact that Harley is trying to make this right and for some riders it may take 3, 4, or even 5 years to accumulate 15,000 miles. On the other hand some of us put that many miles on every year and I wouldn't want to be dropping my bike off every 10 to 12 months for something like this. I'd be willing to bet that the MOCO is thinking about using this tranny in the touring bikes someday and they are scrambling right now to eliminate this problem in future units.
I haven't heard of such a problem in:
1.) Victory six-speeds
2.) Baker six-speeds
3.) Any Japanese six-speeds
4.) Any other Harley trannies
I appreciate the fact that Harley is trying to make this right and for some riders it may take 3, 4, or even 5 years to accumulate 15,000 miles. On the other hand some of us put that many miles on every year and I wouldn't want to be dropping my bike off every 10 to 12 months for something like this. I'd be willing to bet that the MOCO is thinking about using this tranny in the touring bikes someday and they are scrambling right now to eliminate this problem in future units.
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ORIGINAL: solorider
Here's a pennies worth of opinion...
I haven't heard of such a problem in:
1.) Victory six-speeds
2.) Baker six-speeds
3.) Any Japanese six-speeds
4.) Any other Harley trannies
I appreciate the fact that Harley is trying to make this right and for some riders it may take 3, 4, or even 5 years to accumulate 15,000 miles. On the other hand some of us put that many miles on every year and I wouldn't want to be dropping my bike off every 10 to 12 months for something like this. I'd be willing to bet that the MOCO is thinking about using this tranny in the touring bikes someday and they are scrambling right now to eliminate this problem in future units.
Here's a pennies worth of opinion...
I haven't heard of such a problem in:
1.) Victory six-speeds
2.) Baker six-speeds
3.) Any Japanese six-speeds
4.) Any other Harley trannies
I appreciate the fact that Harley is trying to make this right and for some riders it may take 3, 4, or even 5 years to accumulate 15,000 miles. On the other hand some of us put that many miles on every year and I wouldn't want to be dropping my bike off every 10 to 12 months for something like this. I'd be willing to bet that the MOCO is thinking about using this tranny in the touring bikes someday and they are scrambling right now to eliminate this problem in future units.
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RE: 6-speed
It's not the recall on the tranny; this bearing problem was known when they released the bike.
While I think HD is doing the right thing by doing the maintenance free of charge, I think the tranny shoudn't have been released with such a major fault. I s'pose there is enough difference between the old & new trannies, that they couldn't be interchanged. Bottom line is, HD released a defective product.
While I think HD is doing the right thing by doing the maintenance free of charge, I think the tranny shoudn't have been released with such a major fault. I s'pose there is enough difference between the old & new trannies, that they couldn't be interchanged. Bottom line is, HD released a defective product.
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RE: 6-speed
ORIGINAL: MegaHDman
No, but the bearings can turn to graham crackers if the thrust loads are severe enough. And personally I dont like the idea of people having to drop their bikes off to the dealership to sit and wait for a bearing change every 15k miles. And many people will attest that the wait can be significant.
No, but the bearings can turn to graham crackers if the thrust loads are severe enough. And personally I dont like the idea of people having to drop their bikes off to the dealership to sit and wait for a bearing change every 15k miles. And many people will attest that the wait can be significant.
ORIGINAL: MegaHDman
I have gathered that the new transmission costs HD only about half as much to mfg. as the the older style 5 speed. So who here is the real benefactor? The share holders.
I have gathered that the new transmission costs HD only about half as much to mfg. as the the older style 5 speed. So who here is the real benefactor? The share holders.
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Take a look at asking and selling prices on the 1999-2000 Twin Cam Harleys. To this day they sell for $1500-$3000 less than they should. The reason is the BEARINGS in the TC 88 failed at a rate higher than they should. People should not be afraid of the early Twin Cams, especially since any bearing failures would have been addressed five years ago, but buyers are still afraid to take a chance. I predict the same for 2006 Dyna models, even though they may all fixed before the 2007's are out. Having said all of that, why do we need a 6 speed? Why not a 7 or 8 speed? I know there is good reason for some, but I sometimes get tired of going through the five that I have. Multi speed transmissions are for ying ying bikes with a narrow torque band. One answer is lower revs at highway speeds, but that can be addressed with the final drive ratio and changes in the gear ratios in 1st through 4th gears. Top gear is still a 1:1 ratio through the transmission so all they did is changed the final drive ratio to drop revs, and added an extra low gear 1st to compensate for torque loss due to the final drive ratio change. H-D says the new box is quieter than the old one. How in hell can you hear your transmission if you have on proper pipes? My 2002 Dyna is the best shifting bike I have ever had and I have had several. I can count missed shifts on the fingers of one hand after 5000 miles. Neutral is between 2nd and 1st; every time. If there is anything that needs fixing on the Dyna, it is not the transmission. How about the SEAT!