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Old Oct 9, 2011 | 11:59 AM
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was wondering what your ride was like?


i just installed 12" street glide shocks on my 11 wide glide,
currently running 25 lbs of air in them and mine sort of floats
up and down on bumps, i dont remember this type of floating
ride action on my nightster when i installed the air shocks on it.

im wondering if the shocks need to have the oil replaced
with a 20wt or if they may be low........
 
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Old Oct 9, 2011 | 12:33 PM
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My guess is there isn't enough weight for them. I run 25 psi on my Road King when riding solo, and 50 when two-up. And that's an 800 lb bike.

I'm not sure you can safely (for the shocks that is) go lower than 20-25 lbs of air.
 
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Old Oct 9, 2011 | 01:09 PM
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Is it doing anything bad handling wise? Does it bottom or noticeably bounce up and down? I've run mine as little as 0psi to as much as 35psi 2-up. Go for a ride and put your feet on the passenger pegs, gives a good idea what is going on back there. I have currently have about 25psi solo and it rides pretty nice I think. You can't really compare the pressures on a Dyna to what a touring bike uses - the touring bikes have the shocks nearly vertical, not to mention they weigh a lot more whereas the Dyna shocks are at a great angle with greater leverage and they are lighter.
 
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its more a rebound issue in the corners, straight lines it just glides over the bumps
and wont bottom out unless an extremely heavy bump... but if i hit any kind of
heavy bump going through a corner it bottoms and then on rebound upsets
the handling somewhat. very disconcerting to be honest this is why i was thinking
of a heavier weight oil.....
 
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Old Oct 9, 2011 | 03:25 PM
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Sounds more like one or both may be low on oil rather than too light (there is no specification on what is in there) - ZDid you get them new and if not do you know that they were capped on removal? Mine give a very smooth controlled ride under pretty much any conditions.
 
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Old Oct 9, 2011 | 03:25 PM
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Originally Posted by 1HD1C
was wondering what your ride was like?


i just installed 12" street glide shocks on my 11 wide glide,
currently running 25 lbs of air in them and mine sort of floats
up and down on bumps, i dont remember this type of floating
ride action on my nightster when i installed the air shocks on it.

im wondering if the shocks need to have the oil replaced
with a 20wt or if they may be low........
I don't have that problem at all with mine. I run about 25 lbs. of air solo; 50 for 2 up. Sure it's a soft ride, but it doesn't continue to bounce after hitting a bump.

Did the air shocks have the plugs in them when you got them? Sounds like you have no shock absorber action, just air springs. That would be the case if they were extremely low or out of oil.
 
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Old Oct 10, 2011 | 03:27 PM
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I run 30 lbs in mine solo (I weight 175 lbs) on the Fat Bob. I felt like less air let them bottom a little too easy -- or maybe I just have crappy roads on my commute.

Don't have a problem with a "floating" up and down sensation. Mine were new Profile Low Touring (54635-09).

The ride is definitely different than the springs and I'm not sure it's better -- smoother yes, but not sure better.
 
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they were capped but had seepage in the box they came in
also no telling how long they were seeping after the PO took them off
and stored them.

what is the best way to remove whats in there so i can start
refilling from scratch?
 
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Originally Posted by 1HD1C
was wondering what your ride was like?


i just installed 12" street glide shocks on my 11 wide glide,
currently running 25 lbs of air in them and mine sort of floats
up and down on bumps, i dont remember this type of floating
ride action on my nightster when i installed the air shocks on it.

im wondering if the shocks need to have the oil replaced
with a 20wt or if they may be low........
Changing to a heavier oil would be a great idea. Contrary to what you will hear, touring air shocks are GROSSLY under sprung for a Dyna. Common sense would make one believe that since they are for a heavier motorcycle that they are heavier shocks. Take a quick look at a shock website such as progressive that lists spring rates for various motorcycles and you will see the touring bikes have dramatically lower spring rates than the Dyna's. So do Sportsters. Its a simple physics thing having to do with the shock angle and location of the two entirely different chassis. That is why touring air shocks ride so smooth and soft on Dyna's, and also why you have to have them so pumped up to not bottom out. 25lbs solo and 50lbs two up is absurd pressure compared to the 5 or 10 lbs most guys run in their touring bikes. To be honestly fair, most touring guys run zero pressure because they never actually check them, yet they rarely bottom out. I ran touring air shocks for a while. Thicker oil does help, but if your wanting reasonable two up comfort, they are way to weak. They ride like glass when solo, and I loved that, but I ride two up way to often and had to buy some heavy duty Dyna shocks.


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Old Oct 11, 2011 | 08:13 AM
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Great thread. I have been toying with the idea of running air shocks as well. Can anyone tell me what air shocks I could use from a tourer that would fit my 2000 Super Glide?

Also I do mostly solo riding and when cruising I like the slammed/lowered look (currently have Burly's), would I still get that look or would it bring me back up to where the original 13" shocks were at?
 
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