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Old Dec 26, 2013 | 08:47 AM
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With the stove rope it felt a more restrictive in the higher RPM ranges than what it used to feel like but nothing too substantial.

I ended up removing the stove rope and using 12oz fiberglass cloth. Wrapped 3 layers around it and tied it off with some safety wire.

I'm so sick of messing with it that I'm just gonna call it good enough.

I don't even care if it's loud or silent, just better not worrying about the baffle wrap burning up or deteriorating.
 
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Old Dec 26, 2013 | 10:00 AM
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Originally Posted by izzyryder
With the stove rope it felt a more restrictive in the higher RPM ranges than what it used to feel like but nothing too substantial.

I ended up removing the stove rope and using 12oz fiberglass cloth. Wrapped 3 layers around it and tied it off with some safety wire.

I'm so sick of messing with it that I'm just gonna call it good enough.

I don't even care if it's loud or silent, just better not worrying about the baffle wrap burning up or deteriorating.
I hear ya...there always comes a point with these mods where good enough is good enough.

I just finished up a youtube research session on the Moose and FMF loose-style packing and think I'm going to pull my baffle out today and re-pack it more evenly now that I've learned some new techniques.
 
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Old Dec 26, 2013 | 10:54 AM
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I hear ya...there always comes a point with these mods where good enough is good enough. I just finished up a youtube research session on the Moose and FMF loose-style packing and think I'm going to pull my baffle out today and re-pack it more evenly now that I've learned some new techniques.
Did you use the moose fiberglass mat or the loose fill?
 
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Old Dec 26, 2013 | 10:56 AM
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The loose stuff.
 
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Old Dec 26, 2013 | 11:00 AM
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The loose stuff.
How did you get the fill to stay around the outside of the baffle? I always thought fill was used for double walled baffles?
 
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Old Dec 26, 2013 | 12:04 PM
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How did you get the fill to stay around the outside of the baffle? I always thought fill was used for double walled baffles?
I fiddled with it and slowly stuffed what I could between the baffle and muffler wall as I slid the baffle back in. Keep in mind, I put it on in addition to the stock material not in place of it.

What I've learned this morning is to take the loose packing and kind of roll into a loose log shape, then coil those around the baffle. Use blue masking tape to hold it all in place, then install the baffle. The heat will cause the tape to release and allow the packing to expand uniformly in the muffler.

I didn't save any of the links but if you search youtube for Moose or FMF loose exhaust packing or competition exhaust packing, you should find the videos of how it's done. The FMF stuff is pink, but appears to be the same material as Moose otherwise and has the same handling properties.

I'll let you know how well it works after I get back from Harbor Freight with a $20 slide hammer.
 
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Old Dec 27, 2013 | 06:22 AM
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So this is the best $20 I've spent on a tool in a long, long time.
http://www.harborfreight.com/15-piec...-set-5469.html.

I had to pull the baffle, repack, and replace several times last night to get it to fit in the conical muffler, and that thing made it a breeze. I was able to double the amount of material.

No report back on how well the extra packing worked since I haven't been able to road test yet. It sounds better at idle, but it needs to be run long enough to blow off the masking tape.
 
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Old Dec 27, 2013 | 08:04 AM
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I don't know. Seems like a lot if trouble to repack a baffle. Moosehead or Helix mats are simple 123 wrap, cut, tape and done. And these last.
 
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Old Dec 27, 2013 | 09:06 AM
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Originally Posted by SquidHead
So this is the best $20 I've spent on a tool in a long, long time.
http://www.harborfreight.com/15-piec...-set-5469.html.

I had to pull the baffle, repack, and replace several times last night to get it to fit in the conical muffler, and that thing made it a breeze. I was able to double the amount of material.

No report back on how well the extra packing worked since I haven't been able to road test yet. It sounds better at idle, but it needs to be run long enough to blow off the masking tape.
If you haven't, make sure to put anti seize on the front of the baffle and also on the rear. It'll help keep it from seizing.

I gotta 2nd the suggestion with the mat. Not saying fill is bad but I'd constantly be worried it was shifting around unevenly and easily burning up.

I was looking at the moose racing pillows which seemed nice. They look like they'd make the exhaust real quiet though.

I went with the fiberglass cloth after doing a lot more digging, and some guy (Joe Minton) came up. Some articles from back when. This guy supposedly knows his **** and said it's what you should use.

Since we share the same name, I figured I should listen and do what he suggests.
 
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Old Dec 27, 2013 | 10:13 AM
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Originally Posted by izzyryder
If you haven't, make sure to put anti seize on the front of the baffle and also on the rear. It'll help keep it from seizing.

I gotta 2nd the suggestion with the mat. Not saying fill is bad but I'd constantly be worried it was shifting around unevenly and easily burning up.

I was looking at the moose racing pillows which seemed nice. They look like they'd make the exhaust real quiet though.

I went with the fiberglass cloth after doing a lot more digging, and some guy (Joe Minton) came up. Some articles from back when. This guy supposedly knows his **** and said it's what you should use.

Since we share the same name, I figured I should listen and do what he suggests.
That will be my next step is this doesn't work out.
 
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