quick question - warning light for overheating?
i seem to have found the correct map on my computer and it's not TBW
Map #784
103 CI, 9-9.5 CR, stock heads, 575 cams
Seems to me that the 106 map (#872) is a better fit if I adjust the injector compensation
106 CI, 9.5-10 CR, stock heads, 577 cams
You have any thoughts?
I guess I could save the loaded map and try out 872 see how it rides...?
Map #784
103 CI, 9-9.5 CR, stock heads, 575 cams
Seems to me that the 106 map (#872) is a better fit if I adjust the injector compensation
106 CI, 9.5-10 CR, stock heads, 577 cams
You have any thoughts?
I guess I could save the loaded map and try out 872 see how it rides...?
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Before you go changing maps, what I would do is run a data collection and email it to Zippers, along with your concerns about heat and the engine light. They will analyze the data and either send you a new map, recommend one from the list, or tweak your current map and send it back to you. They're the experts on this and their turnaround time is usually pretty good.
Road Captain
Joined: Sep 2013
Posts: 536
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From: California
Map Selection.............
i seem to have found the correct map on my computer and it's not TBW
Map #784
103 CI, 9-9.5 CR, stock heads, 575 cams
Seems to me that the 106 map (#872) is a better fit if I adjust the injector compensation
106 CI, 9.5-10 CR, stock heads, 577 cams
You have any thoughts?
I guess I could save the loaded map and try out 872 see how it rides...?
Map #784
103 CI, 9-9.5 CR, stock heads, 575 cams
Seems to me that the 106 map (#872) is a better fit if I adjust the injector compensation
106 CI, 9.5-10 CR, stock heads, 577 cams
You have any thoughts?
I guess I could save the loaded map and try out 872 see how it rides...?
So, are you saying you have a TBW map loaded in the ECM now ?
Should have throttle by Cable........
The closest map to your mod's, will work and the auto tune will compensate and make the minor adjustment's needed, then you can automap from there for your riding style.
Also read the section on how to build a map, this will tell you how to go about building the correct map for your bike starting from the chosen base map.
From communication's I have had with ThunderMax Tech department, you must start with the map closest to what your actual engine/cam's/head's/exhaust/air intake.....modification's .....then you have your base map.
Wondering away from that base map, there are to many variable's and may be to aggressive with timing curve's and fuel pulse's.
I believe this is what they will tell you to do anyway, if you are running stock heads and injector's, but are running a map for an engine with other mod's you may not have the correct map...........
Once you have the correct map loaded and still have the warning light issue's, then I would do the map trace back to ThunderMax and let them look at it.
Let me know what you come up with ?????
Live Free = Ride Free..........
Yup, figured out how to find maps
I thought I had a tbw map now but I think it was a glitch in the decoding of the name because it comes up correctly as a 103 twin cam now
There's a few small variants so it's tough to figure out which is closer... Obviosiy 106 is closer than 103 (considering I have a 106), same with compression but which cam is closer to my feuling 574 and what about throttle body? Or do they not matter a huge amount?
Interestingly enough, the map for 106 has the temp warning set for 375 degrees!
Maybe I'll try swapping the map this weekend, I know it seems easy I'm just worried about screwing something up or pissing off my indy
I thought I had a tbw map now but I think it was a glitch in the decoding of the name because it comes up correctly as a 103 twin cam now
There's a few small variants so it's tough to figure out which is closer... Obviosiy 106 is closer than 103 (considering I have a 106), same with compression but which cam is closer to my feuling 574 and what about throttle body? Or do they not matter a huge amount?
Interestingly enough, the map for 106 has the temp warning set for 375 degrees!
Maybe I'll try swapping the map this weekend, I know it seems easy I'm just worried about screwing something up or pissing off my indy
Obviously you have figured out how to go into map editing and break it down to get the map closest to what mod's have been done to the engine ?
So, are you saying you have a TBW map loaded in the ECM now ?
Should have throttle by Cable........
The closest map to your mod's, will work and the auto tune will compensate and make the minor adjustment's needed, then you can automap from there for your riding style.
Also read the section on how to build a map, this will tell you how to go about building the correct map for your bike starting from the chosen base map.
From communication's I have had with ThunderMax Tech department, you must start with the map closest to what your actual engine/cam's/head's/exhaust/air intake.....modification's .....then you have your base map.
Wondering away from that base map, there are to many variable's and may be to aggressive with timing curve's and fuel pulse's.
I believe this is what they will tell you to do anyway, if you are running stock heads and injector's, but are running a map for an engine with other mod's you may not have the correct map...........
Once you have the correct map loaded and still have the warning light issue's, then I would do the map trace back to ThunderMax and let them look at it.
Let me know what you come up with ?????
Live Free = Ride Free..........
So, are you saying you have a TBW map loaded in the ECM now ?
Should have throttle by Cable........
The closest map to your mod's, will work and the auto tune will compensate and make the minor adjustment's needed, then you can automap from there for your riding style.
Also read the section on how to build a map, this will tell you how to go about building the correct map for your bike starting from the chosen base map.
From communication's I have had with ThunderMax Tech department, you must start with the map closest to what your actual engine/cam's/head's/exhaust/air intake.....modification's .....then you have your base map.
Wondering away from that base map, there are to many variable's and may be to aggressive with timing curve's and fuel pulse's.
I believe this is what they will tell you to do anyway, if you are running stock heads and injector's, but are running a map for an engine with other mod's you may not have the correct map...........
Once you have the correct map loaded and still have the warning light issue's, then I would do the map trace back to ThunderMax and let them look at it.
Let me know what you come up with ?????
Live Free = Ride Free..........
Road Captain
Joined: Sep 2013
Posts: 536
Likes: 7
From: California
TM Maps............
Yup, figured out how to find maps
I thought I had a tbw map now but I think it was a glitch in the decoding of the name because it comes up correctly as a 103 twin cam now
There's a few small variants so it's tough to figure out which is closer... Obviosiy 106 is closer than 103 (considering I have a 106), same with compression but which cam is closer to my feuling 574 and what about throttle body? Or do they not matter a huge amount?
Interestingly enough, the map for 106 has the temp warning set for 375 degrees!
Maybe I'll try swapping the map this weekend, I know it seems easy I'm just worried about screwing something up or pissing off my indy
I thought I had a tbw map now but I think it was a glitch in the decoding of the name because it comes up correctly as a 103 twin cam now
There's a few small variants so it's tough to figure out which is closer... Obviosiy 106 is closer than 103 (considering I have a 106), same with compression but which cam is closer to my feuling 574 and what about throttle body? Or do they not matter a huge amount?
Interestingly enough, the map for 106 has the temp warning set for 375 degrees!
Maybe I'll try swapping the map this weekend, I know it seems easy I'm just worried about screwing something up or pissing off my indy
Engine displacement, cam's, throttle body & injector size, exhaust, then air intake would be the order for map location............
Do you have stock throttle body and injector's, and any head work done ?
If you google Thundermax, go to there web page, then go to support which is the upper right side of the window, then click support document's, find your model # click on it and then scroll down until you see Map selection guide then click on that, scroll down again until you get to the cam section there is a link there to find your cam or the closest cam to your's. That should help with the cam selection.
That should get you really darn close to the map you may be looking for.....
What exactly do you have done to you engine ?????
Catch up with you on your reply back........
Live Free = Ride Free.............
S&S 106 Big Bore, 10.0CR
Feuling 574 Cams
Bassani RoadRage 2-into-1
Hi-flow air filter
stock throttle body, standard injectors (3.89 I think), no head work.
I found their cam specs doc, thanks
I'm guessing the highlighted columns are the most important, the brightest being the most important.
So between the two redshift cams, it does look like the 577 is closest
............. IC EO
Feuling 574 : 45 61
RedShift 575: 41 49
RedShift 577: 47 49
I'll give that map a whirl this weekend with injector size compensation (map is for 4.89 not 3.89)...
should I do the idle mapping again do you know?
Feuling 574 Cams
Bassani RoadRage 2-into-1
Hi-flow air filter
stock throttle body, standard injectors (3.89 I think), no head work.
I found their cam specs doc, thanks
I'm guessing the highlighted columns are the most important, the brightest being the most important.
So between the two redshift cams, it does look like the 577 is closest
............. IC EO
Feuling 574 : 45 61
RedShift 575: 41 49
RedShift 577: 47 49
I'll give that map a whirl this weekend with injector size compensation (map is for 4.89 not 3.89)...
should I do the idle mapping again do you know?
Road Captain
Joined: Sep 2013
Posts: 536
Likes: 7
From: California
Re-Map
S&S 106 Big Bore, 10.0CR
Feuling 574 Cams
Bassani RoadRage 2-into-1
Hi-flow air filter
stock throttle body, standard injectors (3.89 I think), no head work.
I found their cam specs doc, thanks
I'm guessing the highlighted columns are the most important, the brightest being the most important.
So between the two redshift cams, it does look like the 577 is closest
............. IC EO
Feuling 574 : 45 61
RedShift 575: 41 49
RedShift 577: 47 49
I'll give that map a whirl this weekend with injector size compensation (map is for 4.89 not 3.89)...
should I do the idle mapping again do you know?
Feuling 574 Cams
Bassani RoadRage 2-into-1
Hi-flow air filter
stock throttle body, standard injectors (3.89 I think), no head work.
I found their cam specs doc, thanks
I'm guessing the highlighted columns are the most important, the brightest being the most important.
So between the two redshift cams, it does look like the 577 is closest
............. IC EO
Feuling 574 : 45 61
RedShift 575: 41 49
RedShift 577: 47 49
I'll give that map a whirl this weekend with injector size compensation (map is for 4.89 not 3.89)...
should I do the idle mapping again do you know?
Let me know how that work's out for you...........
Live free = Ride Free..............
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