A Few q's after cam install
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hi,
thats a valid point UltraNutz if work done at a dealer, but for home workshop where money maybe an issue going through top can be a winner
they are taken apart and put back together all day long robbyville, its good way to learn about bike and how it goes together
they main issue is to put rocker support plates back on "level" for each cylinder otherwise you will think something not right as cant spin pushrod, 1/4 turn of each bolt in pattern outlined in manual, wait 30-60mins, onto next cylinder
thanks
mirrmu
thats a valid point UltraNutz if work done at a dealer, but for home workshop where money maybe an issue going through top can be a winner
they are taken apart and put back together all day long robbyville, its good way to learn about bike and how it goes together
they main issue is to put rocker support plates back on "level" for each cylinder otherwise you will think something not right as cant spin pushrod, 1/4 turn of each bolt in pattern outlined in manual, wait 30-60mins, onto next cylinder
thanks
mirrmu
it's 6 of 1 or 1/2 dozen of the other. Doesn't really matter which way you do it, the end result will be the same. One way involves more time and is less expensive, the other way is quicker and costs a bit more.
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From: chatham il
Your on the right track, as ultra stated new gaskets are a no brainer.....
As for pushrods, .0020" on the base circle is enough reason to to use adjustables IMO. Will it run with stockers in there? Yes for sure,but the rocker box gaskets are like $60 if I'm not mistaken. Not to mention if your getting lifter noise after the install you have no option to preload the lifters any further. You may be fine with stockers or you may notice a little lifter noise right off the bat that you can't correct.
As for pushrods, .0020" on the base circle is enough reason to to use adjustables IMO. Will it run with stockers in there? Yes for sure,but the rocker box gaskets are like $60 if I'm not mistaken. Not to mention if your getting lifter noise after the install you have no option to preload the lifters any further. You may be fine with stockers or you may notice a little lifter noise right off the bat that you can't correct.
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Your on the right track, as ultra stated new gaskets are a no brainer.....
As for pushrods, .0020" on the base circle is enough reason to to use adjustables IMO. Will it run with stockers in there? Yes for sure,but the rocker box gaskets are like $60 if I'm not mistaken. Not to mention if your getting lifter noise after the install you have no option to preload the lifters any further. You may be fine with stockers or you may notice a little lifter noise right off the bat that you can't correct.
As for pushrods, .0020" on the base circle is enough reason to to use adjustables IMO. Will it run with stockers in there? Yes for sure,but the rocker box gaskets are like $60 if I'm not mistaken. Not to mention if your getting lifter noise after the install you have no option to preload the lifters any further. You may be fine with stockers or you may notice a little lifter noise right off the bat that you can't correct.
Joys of the forum, being led down a path of discovery. I'll be in the area of my dealership today so will try to bring back the top end gasket kit for refund.
As far as gaskets that I'll need; the rods come with lifter cap gaskets, I have a gasket for the cam chest, can spacers, and tube covers. So the only other items I need are header gaskets and the one o ring for the oil pump is that right?
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change all 3 orings in the camchest while you have it apart. (2) part # 11301 and (1) part # 11293. Don't skimp on the bearings either. Odds are you are not going to need the spacer kit. When you pull off your chain tensioners, pull them apart, clean them out, and inspect them. When you put them back together, put a few drops of oil back in them during reassembly.
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you are right sir, especially if you're a tinkerer.
That I am
we can certainly help you spend your money and your winters
Funny I've noticed that, somehow I've gone from doing a 5k service to cam replacement (thanks to HDPilot's thread)
change all 3 orings in the camchest while you have it apart. (2) part # 11301 and (1) part # 11293. Don't skimp on the bearings either. Odds are you are not going to need the spacer kit. When you pull off your chain tensioners, pull them apart, clean them out, and inspect them. When you put them back together, put a few drops of oil back in them during reassembly.
That I am
we can certainly help you spend your money and your winters
Funny I've noticed that, somehow I've gone from doing a 5k service to cam replacement (thanks to HDPilot's thread)
change all 3 orings in the camchest while you have it apart. (2) part # 11301 and (1) part # 11293. Don't skimp on the bearings either. Odds are you are not going to need the spacer kit. When you pull off your chain tensioners, pull them apart, clean them out, and inspect them. When you put them back together, put a few drops of oil back in them during reassembly.
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From: bklyn ny/dingmans ferry pa
hello my brothers happy thanksgiving.im in the market to do a cam job on my 2011 road glide ultra i narrowed it down that i want andrews 57h cams.today at my local stealer got 30% off black friday sale and bought the SE tapered pushrods.so now reading all this i guess I'm going to need lifters i don't want to do this job twice and being that the stock have 10k on them i think putting new cams with used wear item might not be good.so need help on what are good lifters for my bike.my set up is andrews 57h cams,SE tapered adjustable pushrods.
PS if you want a deal right now on andrews cams PHAT PERFORMACE has them for 213.00 plus put in BLACK7 at check out and get those cams for 199.00 shipped.
PS if you want a deal right now on andrews cams PHAT PERFORMACE has them for 213.00 plus put in BLACK7 at check out and get those cams for 199.00 shipped.
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hello my brothers happy thanksgiving.im in the market to do a cam job on my 2011 road glide ultra i narrowed it down that i want andrews 57h cams.today at my local stealer got 30% off black friday sale and bought the SE tapered pushrods.so now reading all this i guess I'm going to need lifters i don't want to do this job twice and being that the stock have 10k on them i think putting new cams with used wear item might not be good.so need help on what are good lifters for my bike.my set up is andrews 57h cams,SE tapered adjustable pushrods.
PS if you want a deal right now on andrews cams PHAT PERFORMACE has them for 213.00 plus put in BLACK7 at check out and get those cams for 199.00 shipped.
PS if you want a deal right now on andrews cams PHAT PERFORMACE has them for 213.00 plus put in BLACK7 at check out and get those cams for 199.00 shipped.
As for lifters, I got the S&S 33-5350, apparently better than stock and reasonable priced at $104 through Amazon
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Road Captain
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From: Western Washington
hello my brothers happy thanksgiving.im in the market to do a cam job on my 2011 road glide ultra i narrowed it down that i want andrews 57h cams.today at my local stealer got 30% off black friday sale and bought the SE tapered pushrods.so now reading all this i guess I'm going to need lifters i don't want to do this job twice and being that the stock have 10k on them i think putting new cams with used wear item might not be good.so need help on what are good lifters for my bike.my set up is andrews 57h cams,SE tapered adjustable pushrods.
PS if you want a deal right now on andrews cams PHAT PERFORMACE has them for 213.00 plus put in BLACK7 at check out and get those cams for 199.00 shipped.
PS if you want a deal right now on andrews cams PHAT PERFORMACE has them for 213.00 plus put in BLACK7 at check out and get those cams for 199.00 shipped.
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good lifters that seem to hold up well and at 1/10 the cost of the name brands that people seem to be having issues with pumping up, bleeding down, etc.