2012 street glide 103 cam?
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2012 street glide 103 cam?
I want something that sounds good at idle and has good torque. it has rinehart true duals se air breather and se tuner. since i did that it does not have a good lope sound at idle as it did when it was stock.
And think i need to stay with se for warranty.
I ride 2 up about 40% of the time. and i weigh 220lbs and wife is 180lbs.
And i dont want to have to do head work or anything crazy.
And think i need to stay with se for warranty.
I ride 2 up about 40% of the time. and i weigh 220lbs and wife is 180lbs.
And i dont want to have to do head work or anything crazy.
Last edited by 12 street glide; Mar 17, 2015 at 08:56 AM.
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The SE204 will provide the lopey idle you want but won't have off idle torque of the 48 or the SE255. The SE204 is more of a mid range cam, the SE255 a low to mid range cam. The advantage of the 48 is that it will provide the low and mid range performance of both the SE cams and will carry the TQ/HP out well past 4500 rpms. You have to decide which you want, the idle or the off idle torque. Considering you ride two up as much as you do, the Andrews 48 would be a good choice. JMHO.
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Swapping the cam voids the manufacture warranty no matter who made it but if the dealer will warranty it in writing ya may be ok there (at that dealer). I always recommend Andrews 57 in 103s without headwork. If ya go SE do 204s with high lift rockers. Either will add some lope but it won't sound like a shovel no matter what ya do.
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if you want warranty.....
The 204 would give you more than the 255 for what your looking for. The 204 has more duration and valve overlap than the 255 and still works good with stock compression based on the 34* ABDC closing. And low lift no head work necessary...
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Have to disagree. If the OP likes torque as he says in the OP, I think he will be disappointed with the 204. It will be soft on the bottom compared to either the SE255 or the Andrews 48. Not saying the SE204 is a bad choice as it works well in a 103"er and will deliver a more "lopey" idle but not the stump pulling, off idle torque the other two cams will deliver. JMHO.
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While 255/48 may provide slightly better bottom end they sign out sooner and leave power on the table. OP does not say "stump pulling" torque. Only "torque" and 57/204 will deliver as much/more torque, just slightly to the right while delivering much more hp. I just don't understand why ya wouldn't want all the performance available if making a change.
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Especially if do a lot of 2up riding. Do you really want a lot of torque at 2400 rpm. More stress on the bike than at 2800-3000. In fact I hear a lot off you out there claiming that there is nothing wrong with cruising at 3000 or even 3400 rpm and that it's better for your bike. So why bother with all that torque at 2000 rpm?
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To all you proponents of the SE204; I speak from personal experience, as I usually do. I don't repeat what I read on another forum (if I do, I say so) or heard from someone that knows a guy that has a cousin that knows a guy, etc. and, as I have said many times on this forum, I think the SE204 is a very underrated cam. I just don't think it is the right cam for the OP.
I ran the SE204 in a lighter bike, a Deuce, with ported heads and 190CCP in a 95" motor; made 104TQ/96HP. Pulled hard to the rev limiter when riding solo but I weigh about 180 pounds. Put the wife on the back and add another 140 pounds and the Deuce definitely loses some low end grunt. Sure, cruising was not an issue but getting up to cruise speed at 3000-3200 rpms wasn't as easy or as quick with the wife on the back.
The SE255 will hit 100TQ at about 2200 rpms but the 254 or 204 won't hit that mark until about 2700 rpms and all will drop below 100TQ between 4000-4500 rpms. The Andrews 48 will hit 100TQ at about the same place the 255 does but will not drop below 100TQ until about 5000rpms. I
I don't care what cam the OP chooses, don't have a dog in the fight. I totally agree that the SE204 or Andrews 57 will be an improvement over stock and that the OP will surely like the improvement of the SE204 or the Andrews 57 over stock. However, if he was able to ride the same bike with the SE255 or the 48, I would bet a six pack that he would prefer the later. The heavier Streetglide and 400 pounds of combined rider weight will not play well with the SE204 cams until near 3000 rpms and peak power will be between 3500-4500 rpms. I just believe that the OP would prefer that curve pulled to the left and that he rarely sees engine rpms above 4500, but I could be wrong. As usual JMHO.
I ran the SE204 in a lighter bike, a Deuce, with ported heads and 190CCP in a 95" motor; made 104TQ/96HP. Pulled hard to the rev limiter when riding solo but I weigh about 180 pounds. Put the wife on the back and add another 140 pounds and the Deuce definitely loses some low end grunt. Sure, cruising was not an issue but getting up to cruise speed at 3000-3200 rpms wasn't as easy or as quick with the wife on the back.
The SE255 will hit 100TQ at about 2200 rpms but the 254 or 204 won't hit that mark until about 2700 rpms and all will drop below 100TQ between 4000-4500 rpms. The Andrews 48 will hit 100TQ at about the same place the 255 does but will not drop below 100TQ until about 5000rpms. I
I don't care what cam the OP chooses, don't have a dog in the fight. I totally agree that the SE204 or Andrews 57 will be an improvement over stock and that the OP will surely like the improvement of the SE204 or the Andrews 57 over stock. However, if he was able to ride the same bike with the SE255 or the 48, I would bet a six pack that he would prefer the later. The heavier Streetglide and 400 pounds of combined rider weight will not play well with the SE204 cams until near 3000 rpms and peak power will be between 3500-4500 rpms. I just believe that the OP would prefer that curve pulled to the left and that he rarely sees engine rpms above 4500, but I could be wrong. As usual JMHO.