Fuel Moto pushrods
LOL Definitely not a rant, Just sharing my experiences with FM. I hear and understand that many have received great customer service from them. I have not, and as a result of their poor customer service in my case, they will not receive any of my $ ever again.
I'll be happy to post my name, customer #, receipt #, and the details of the build here on this forum and let's see if they live up to their obligations by publicly posting the map here.
I doubt they will...
I'll be happy to post my name, customer #, receipt #, and the details of the build here on this forum and let's see if they live up to their obligations by publicly posting the map here.
I doubt they will...
106 Big Bore kit
S&S 79cc heads
S&S MR103 gear drive cams
SE58mm throttle body & larger injectors
decatted head pipe, V&H mufflers
As explained at that time unfortunately Fuel Moto does not have a map available for this combination as we have not tested this specific setup. Due to the infinite amount of combinations we do not have maps for every possible setup. Please understand it was not that we were not willing to help, it was that we did not have a map to share. While our map database is extensive, users are welcome to contact us either before they purchase a tuning component or before adding additional modifications to check map availability.
With that being said, if you were unable to acquire a tune from Dynojet or have the bike professionally tuned I would be more than willing to work with you to find a solution, even if this includes taking back your 4 year old Power Commander and hardware and getting you into a more suitable tuning solution. You are welcome to contact me at jamie@fuelmotousa.com I again apologize we did not meet your expectations.
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The USA's Leader V-Twin EFI & Performance www.fuelmotousa.com
Contact 920-423-3309
Email jamie@fuelmotousa.com
Jamie Long / Fuel Moto USA
The USA's Leader V-Twin EFI & Performance www.fuelmotousa.com
Contact 920-423-3309
Email jamie@fuelmotousa.com
Road Master
Joined: Nov 2015
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From: georgia
Agree. Personally, I think it’s pretty weak to only erase one side of a discussion- especially when many agree with that side! Frankly, it makes me think less of Fuelmoto.
Last edited by jbarr1; Nov 15, 2018 at 08:36 AM.
Road Warrior
Joined: Mar 2013
Posts: 1,923
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From: Alorton, Illinois
I will stand by my above statement about my time at the dealer show and what I saw. I will also stand on my track record of integrity in this industry.
I don't BS customers with power numbers that can only be seen on my dyno. Then when others see the same. I don't try and discredit them as a tuner.
Target tune? I don't come up with tall tails of how I wrote in the base code to make the Delphi ECM accept wife bands. Then have to have dyno jets VP come on this forum and apologize in public to the man that actual was it involved in writing that code.
I have never sat and copied TTS base cals and tried to claim that I developed them on my dyno. Then when confronted by the man that actually did develop them. Go into some lip quivering, little girl mode.
I have never told a customer that I would hone cylinders and then send them out with carbon ring still on top.
I have never had any of my distributors take away my dealership because I broke my word with them by breaking a signed contract.
And thank God I don't have the type of business that I have to get up everyday and do damage control. No extra money or gifts to forum admins and owners to have them clean up my disgruntled customer threads and to protect me because I can't protect myself or that I can't stand on my own name and integrity.
To quote a great tuner. Find my disgruntled customers.
I don't BS customers with power numbers that can only be seen on my dyno. Then when others see the same. I don't try and discredit them as a tuner.
Target tune? I don't come up with tall tails of how I wrote in the base code to make the Delphi ECM accept wife bands. Then have to have dyno jets VP come on this forum and apologize in public to the man that actual was it involved in writing that code.
I have never sat and copied TTS base cals and tried to claim that I developed them on my dyno. Then when confronted by the man that actually did develop them. Go into some lip quivering, little girl mode.
I have never told a customer that I would hone cylinders and then send them out with carbon ring still on top.
I have never had any of my distributors take away my dealership because I broke my word with them by breaking a signed contract.
And thank God I don't have the type of business that I have to get up everyday and do damage control. No extra money or gifts to forum admins and owners to have them clean up my disgruntled customer threads and to protect me because I can't protect myself or that I can't stand on my own name and integrity.
To quote a great tuner. Find my disgruntled customers.
Road Captain
Joined: Jan 2014
Posts: 566
Likes: 70
From: The Redneck Riviera
Wow! What's the deal with all the hoopla being made regarding "re-branding" on this thread??
Does anyone develop / manufacture / sell all their own stuff?? Does TTS Manufacture all their electronics/cables, grind their Cams in house?? Does S&S Manufacture everything in house?? There are those that "re-brand" or have outside manufacturing (much more prevalent) but with their own tweeks / specifications,,, or in the case of Push Rods / Lifters, just have their Logo put on,,, IMO nothing wrong with "Branding" everyone does it...
As a Consumer, it really doesn't matter to me... Support / Customer Service after the Sale is much more important to me...
Two of my riding Buds and I (collectively 120+ years on HDs) have purchased products from Fuelmoto over the years,,, In all our direct experiences with Fuelmoto, Jamie has delivered Products, Support, and Customer Service as Advertised,,, sometimes going "above and beyond", surpassing our expectations of Support / Customer Service...
As I Posted earlier, I don't use Smith Brothers / Fuelmoto Pushrods,,, has nothing to do with the name...
Does anyone develop / manufacture / sell all their own stuff?? Does TTS Manufacture all their electronics/cables, grind their Cams in house?? Does S&S Manufacture everything in house?? There are those that "re-brand" or have outside manufacturing (much more prevalent) but with their own tweeks / specifications,,, or in the case of Push Rods / Lifters, just have their Logo put on,,, IMO nothing wrong with "Branding" everyone does it...
As a Consumer, it really doesn't matter to me... Support / Customer Service after the Sale is much more important to me...
Two of my riding Buds and I (collectively 120+ years on HDs) have purchased products from Fuelmoto over the years,,, In all our direct experiences with Fuelmoto, Jamie has delivered Products, Support, and Customer Service as Advertised,,, sometimes going "above and beyond", surpassing our expectations of Support / Customer Service...
As I Posted earlier, I don't use Smith Brothers / Fuelmoto Pushrods,,, has nothing to do with the name...
Wow! What's the deal with all the hoopla being made regarding "re-branding" on this thread??
Does anyone develop / manufacture / sell all their own stuff?? Does TTS Manufacture all their electronics/cables, grind their Cams in house?? Does S&S Manufacture everything in house?? There are those that "re-brand" or have outside manufacturing (much more prevalent) but with their own tweeks / specifications,,, or in the case of Push Rods / Lifters, just have their Logo put on,,, IMO nothing wrong with "Branding" everyone does it...
As a Consumer, it really doesn't matter to me... Support / Customer Service after the Sale is much more important to me...
Two of my riding Buds and I (collectively 120+ years on HDs) have purchased products from Fuelmoto over the years,,, In all our direct experiences with Fuelmoto, Jamie has delivered Products, Support, and Customer Service as Advertised,,, sometimes going "above and beyond", surpassing our expectations of Support / Customer Service...
As I Posted earlier, I don't use Smith Brothers / Fuelmoto Pushrods,,, has nothing to do with the name...
Does anyone develop / manufacture / sell all their own stuff?? Does TTS Manufacture all their electronics/cables, grind their Cams in house?? Does S&S Manufacture everything in house?? There are those that "re-brand" or have outside manufacturing (much more prevalent) but with their own tweeks / specifications,,, or in the case of Push Rods / Lifters, just have their Logo put on,,, IMO nothing wrong with "Branding" everyone does it...
As a Consumer, it really doesn't matter to me... Support / Customer Service after the Sale is much more important to me...
Two of my riding Buds and I (collectively 120+ years on HDs) have purchased products from Fuelmoto over the years,,, In all our direct experiences with Fuelmoto, Jamie has delivered Products, Support, and Customer Service as Advertised,,, sometimes going "above and beyond", surpassing our expectations of Support / Customer Service...
As I Posted earlier, I don't use Smith Brothers / Fuelmoto Pushrods,,, has nothing to do with the name...
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In all my years of participating on enthusiast forums, when it comes to performance and tuning shops, I have generally found that the good guys are usually the ones getting rocks thrown at them. They keep their comments generally positive, try to help the membership learn, and of course sell their products and services along the way. They also pony up some dough for advertising and in support of the forum. I believe all of the parties tangled in this pissing match have that option, yes?
I stand by the idea that if a shop owner and his/her business is misleading, deceptive, lack knowledge, or sell bad products, they generally find themselves going out of business in fairly short order. That doesn't seem to be happening, so let your common sense prevail. Nobody is going to agree on everything, but trying to throw shade on a reputable business is just showing poor taste. Knock it off already.
I stand by the idea that if a shop owner and his/her business is misleading, deceptive, lack knowledge, or sell bad products, they generally find themselves going out of business in fairly short order. That doesn't seem to be happening, so let your common sense prevail. Nobody is going to agree on everything, but trying to throw shade on a reputable business is just showing poor taste. Knock it off already.
In all my years of participating on enthusiast forums, when it comes to performance and tuning shops, I have generally found that the good guys are usually the ones getting rocks thrown at them. They keep their comments generally positive, try to help the membership learn, and of course sell their products and services along the way. They also pony up some dough for advertising and in support of the forum. I believe all of the parties tangled in this pissing match have that option, yes?
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