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Old Jul 20, 2015 | 11:50 PM
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I just did my first oil change on my "new to me" 89 FXSTC. I found the drain hose, drained the oil, replaced the filter, and poured in 3 qts of HD 20-50.
I then ran the bike to check for leaks and finding none, I took a little putt around the yard. Now when I check the level it's right up to the filler neck.
The book calls for three quarts, what's up?
 
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Old Jul 20, 2015 | 11:56 PM
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Was it at operating temp when you drained it and by that I mean had you been riding it or just letting it idle....if you don't run it long enough it holds oil in the sump and then you have too much once filled and ridden.
 
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Yes. it was at operating temp I just rode it about 8 miles.
 
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Old Jul 21, 2015 | 01:26 AM
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Okay, I used a turkey baster to pull out 8oz out and got the oil level down to the only mark on the stick.


I'm assuming this must be the full mark.
 
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Full mark when hot, should be lower when cold.
 
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I don't think I've ever put in more than 2 quarts an 20 oz, I wish there was a way to drain the case. Anyone have any Ideas?
 
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Old Jul 21, 2015 | 06:24 AM
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The EVO bikes have a bad design..."jiffy" stand on the left, oil tank drain on the right...if you drain the oil on the stand...you leave a LOT of oil in the tank...gotta lean it over to get all the oil out.
 
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Originally Posted by 98hotrodfatboy
I don't think I've ever put in more than 2 quarts an 20 oz, I wish there was a way to drain the case. Anyone have any Ideas?
It is a Dry Sump System...No Need.
 
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Originally Posted by 98hotrodfatboy
I don't think I've ever put in more than 2 quarts an 20 oz, I wish there was a way to drain the case. Anyone have any Ideas?
If you're not changing the filter, that's about right. The Softail only holds 3 quarts MAX.

I change mine IMMEDIATELY after a run, while it's still hot, and before the oil has a chance to drain past the check valve back in to the sump from the tank. I put a block under the frame and rock the bike to the right to make sure the tank drains thoroughly. Then I change the filter. I can then add just shy of 3 quarts (2 qt.-28 oz.). Of course, I don't run mine a half quart low like many here suggest. I run my oil level right up to the bottom of the filler neck (when the bike is upright and level). I find that running with the oil level low on a Softail just increases the oil temperature and rate of oil consumption.

There are some people who drain their oil, remove the filter, fill the oil tank and start the engine to let the new oil "flush" the old oil out of the motor. Watch the oil coming out of the filter port, and when clean oil appears, stop the motor, install the filter, top off the tank and ride.

Seems like a lot of trouble for relatively little benefit to me.
 
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Originally Posted by Uncle G.
There are some people who drain their oil, remove the filter, fill the oil tank and start the engine to let the new oil "flush" the old oil out of the motor. Watch the oil coming out of the filter port, and when clean oil appears, stop the motor, install the filter, top off the tank and ride.

Seems like a lot of trouble for relatively little benefit to me.
That's a similar version of the old shovel head 4 qt oil change. This way it took the whole 4 qts too.

You drain the old oil and pull the return line to the tank (filter was in the top of the tank back then) and put in a new filter. Add oil and start up the scoot while watching the oil return going into a jar/bucket. When it turned clean you killed the scoot and hooked up the hose to the tank. Top it off and you're all done.

Some folks just want it all out.

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