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that is exactly the point!
If you Sq the rear wheel with the frame using top frame rails, when done
the front wheel with be tilted one direction or the other as HD does NOT jig their stuff up that good.
the necks have variations in them.
If you Sq the rear wheel with the frame using top frame rails, when done
the front wheel with be tilted one direction or the other as HD does NOT jig their stuff up that good.
the necks have variations in them.
Even if that is true (that the backbone method is not a reliable way of determining that the steering head is vertical), your method doesn't solve it.
The only thing we're worried about frame-wise on the alignment process is getting the steering head vertical. That's it.
The GlidePro/Schex method establishes steering head vertical by measuring off the backbone. You say that's no good. Fair enough. But what are you doing instead?
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Lets have another beer ........
Like I stated earlier-
Jig the front wheel straight up and dwn, bring the rear wheel in behind it (after you Sq in in the swing arm).
If you have done this and I am sure you have ,-
it is quite a bit of fussing to get it not only behind the front wheel but line it up with the adjusters too so the string or straight edge touches all 4pts at the same time.
As all that happens, you can measure the top of the frame , albeit I don't know what you will do with the information except swear at HD for being sloppy as it will read a deg off or more.
Unless we bend the neck area we are stuck with it .
OR
Sq to the frame like most people do,
but then the front wheel will be leaning one-way or the other, .pick your poison.
As for me I choose the wheels running in plane together and the frame leaned off a deg or two.
Beers to ya!
Like I stated earlier-
Jig the front wheel straight up and dwn, bring the rear wheel in behind it (after you Sq in in the swing arm).
If you have done this and I am sure you have ,-
it is quite a bit of fussing to get it not only behind the front wheel but line it up with the adjusters too so the string or straight edge touches all 4pts at the same time.
As all that happens, you can measure the top of the frame , albeit I don't know what you will do with the information except swear at HD for being sloppy as it will read a deg off or more.
Unless we bend the neck area we are stuck with it .
OR
Sq to the frame like most people do,
but then the front wheel will be leaning one-way or the other, .pick your poison.
As for me I choose the wheels running in plane together and the frame leaned off a deg or two.
Beers to ya!
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I get that you don't think the GlidePro/Schex method of squaring the rear wheel to the top rails works, but my question is how do YOU verify that the rear wheel is square? What does your procedure square it to?
Even if that is true (that the backbone method is not a reliable way of determining that the steering head is vertical), your method doesn't solve it.
The only thing we're worried about frame-wise on the alignment process is getting the steering head vertical. That's it.
The GlidePro/Schex method establishes steering head vertical by measuring off the backbone. You say that's no good. Fair enough. But what are you doing instead?
Even if that is true (that the backbone method is not a reliable way of determining that the steering head is vertical), your method doesn't solve it.
The only thing we're worried about frame-wise on the alignment process is getting the steering head vertical. That's it.
The GlidePro/Schex method establishes steering head vertical by measuring off the backbone. You say that's no good. Fair enough. But what are you doing instead?
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From: Viet Vet, crossroads
MY MISTAKE
When i first looked at the video I saw him put the level on the rear frame.
I stopped right there as i knew he was inaccurate.
After reiewing this and yours and i conersation I see what he did
He sq the front wheel then shimmed the level at the frame to make it zero or level
I have no clue why he does it this way-
.as all he has to do is look at the front wheel.
So, in the end, he is taking an extra step to correct the wrong number at the top of the frame.
That was my mistake for NOT reviewing all he said as he was going so slow he was killing me
sorry.
When i first looked at the video I saw him put the level on the rear frame.
I stopped right there as i knew he was inaccurate.
After reiewing this and yours and i conersation I see what he did
He sq the front wheel then shimmed the level at the frame to make it zero or level
I have no clue why he does it this way-
.as all he has to do is look at the front wheel.
So, in the end, he is taking an extra step to correct the wrong number at the top of the frame.
That was my mistake for NOT reviewing all he said as he was going so slow he was killing me
sorry.
Last edited by Kingglide549; Jan 25, 2019 at 04:05 PM.
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I'm about to the point on my ElectraGlide project where I need to set the alignment anyway. I think I'll put up a video of the process, and I'll probably get it in under three minutes.
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YUP
Thanx.
I think we agree..words are lost in translation.
I have no clue why he bothers to shim the level as he got the number from the front wheel anyway.
Frames are not jigged to zero tolerance at the factory, at least EVO frames were not.
Thanx.
I think we agree..words are lost in translation.
I have no clue why he bothers to shim the level as he got the number from the front wheel anyway.
Frames are not jigged to zero tolerance at the factory, at least EVO frames were not.