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Old Oct 10, 2023 | 07:17 PM
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Anyone have experience with Ultima motors? I've been looking at the El Bruto 107".
 
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Old Oct 11, 2023 | 07:25 AM
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I have used the 116 a few times and what we did was strip it to the screws to see what it was and if i liked what they did - when they first came along with the engine program - and the piston ring lands were not big enough this caused the rings to seize - they sent me all new parts to fix it and i sent the original stuff back un used

i also was not a fan of the camshaft they were using - i should have left the original as it became a MONSTER and almost not streetable so i set the rev limit at 5000 and sent them on the way - it needed a chain not the rear belt as pulling it sounded like shots going off when the tight belt skipped a tooth or two reving up

they seem to last its all import parts ( country ??? ) i believe they assemble them - they work but set the rev limit down and they last - if you have it you will use all of it and then it does not last
 
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Old Oct 11, 2023 | 07:43 AM
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3 owners in an earlier post reported lifter roller failures grenading their engines
That was however sometime back
I have no personal experience
 
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Old Oct 11, 2023 | 08:11 AM
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If I couldn't afford an S&S, I would probably rebuild my O.E. to My Spec, using as decent Quality Parts as I could Source...
I do, However, Have a very good, well established, Proven. Harley Wrench..
 
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Old Oct 11, 2023 | 07:35 PM
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For the price I was thinking of getting one and tearing it down and checking to see if everything was within specs. A lot like what johnjzjz is saying.

I was doing the math . . . if I built a 96" S&S motor . . . buy building it as I bought the parts It would cost me about 4k more than buying the dang thing outright, completely assembled by S&S.
 
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Old Oct 12, 2023 | 01:47 PM
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About 2011 or 2012 I assembled a 127 for a guy. The only thing we did different was lifters and a 3 angle valve job and he made the advertised hp easy. I moved and lost track, don’t know if he’s still street/strip but last I knew it was running great.

I just bought another un assembled 127 and blue printed it and installed it in my softail. I haven’t fired it yet but everything looked good. Next year I’ll replace the rockers and have the heads ported and a new valve job… but I’m pretty confident it will get me into the 10’s likely 140 square. I’m gonna run my bored out G carb and I have two sets of exhaust to try, Bassani pro-streets and hooker three step drags. After the 1000 mile break in I’ll do some track and dyno to see what’s up.

I also messed with a 96” shovel from them. Put a different evo cam in it and he made about 100 square.. less than my 93” but still pretty remarkable from a crate motor.

The un assembled 120-127 cost almost the same as the assembled but I wanted peace of mind and love doing it myself.


 

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I'd do an Ultima over anything RevTech. S&S is getting sketchy anymore, had my share issues with their stuff to.
 
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[QUOTE=TwiZted Biker;21415566]I'd do an Ultima over anything RevTech. S&S is getting sketchy anymore, had my share issues with their stuff to.[/QUOTE

when we were road racing i went to them to have a special set of wheels made and out side behind the building was 3 55 gallon drums filled with damaged crank pins that were not hardened correctly - that is was all over the place at that time late 90s
 
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I'd do an Ultima over anything RevTech. S&S is getting sketchy anymore, had my share issues with their stuff to.[/QUOTE

when we were road racing i went to them to have a special set of wheels made and out side behind the building was 3 55 gallon drums filled with damaged crank pins that were not hardened correctly - that is was all over the place at that time late 90s
Still have a 5 gal bucket of their rod cores from that BS.
 
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Longevity is more important to me than HP. What would you guys think of disassembling the 107" El Bruto and replacing the piston to drop the compression down to 9:1 instead of the 10+:1. I would still get the extra power I want just from the size increase. I'm not building to race. I thought I read somewhere they are using 4" dia. pistons from a twin cam. Is that correct?
 
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