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Not big on points, first thing I would do is put a Dyna S ignition or something electronic in there for the ignition. The Dynatek S was kicker friendly.. https://www.dynaonline.com/dyna-s-ig...al-fire-ds6-1/
Also looking at the timing plate appears that your advance is maxed out.. It appears you have too much timing in there.. And as suggested, at the minimum rebuild the carb or just throw an S&S on there.. Evo's always love S&S...
Edit: one more thing, get rid of the champion spark plugs and get NGK bp5es.. also of I remember correctly when running points I believe the gap should be. 028".. Some one correct me if I'm wrong please..
you right , timing plate is maxed out .
I didnt even noticed that .
Thanks Alot .
differently gonna check up on that .
I asked before: Have you personally ever seen this bike run?
I'd be curious why the last guy set the timing like that. Mainly I wonder if he just didn't know any better, or was he trying to work his way around a different problem?
The nightmare scenario is that the engine itself is somehow out of (mechanical) time. There was a guy around here a few years ago who had that problem. IIRC, the key on his pinion gear sheared, and the gear slipped. Another reason to find someone with a paddock starter so you can do a decent compression check on this unit.
If this was my bike, next thing I'd do is adjust the timing to where its in the center of the slots and try kicking it over a few times. The fact that you're getting kickbacks tells me you're getting fuel. It would be nice if your problem was just the ignition timing being way off.
Better still, look up how to properly set the static timing on these and do that. It's pretty simple.
I asked before: Have you personally ever seen this bike run?
I'd be curious why the last guy set the timing like that. Mainly I wonder if he just didn't know any better, or was he trying to work his way around a different problem?
The nightmare scenario is that the engine itself is somehow out of (mechanical) time. There was a guy around here a few years ago who had that problem. IIRC, the key on his pinion gear sheared, and the gear slipped. Another reason to find someone with a paddock starter so you can do a decent compression check on this unit.
If this was my bike, next thing I'd do is adjust the timing to where its in the center of the slots and try kicking it over a few times. The fact that you're getting kickbacks tells me you're getting fuel. It would be nice if your problem was just the ignition timing being way off.
Better still, look up how to properly set the static timing on these and do that. It's pretty simple.
I seen the bike running in a video .
But not with my own eyes . yet 😉
Just bought at new ignition kit and new spark plugs.
so I'm gonna change it all and set the timing , maby check with the valves to see if it match up. Clean the carbs .
hope fully it's not anything else🤞
Are any of you guys able to see witch year the engine it could be from ?
Or what kind of model manual I'm looking for?
They definitely are aftermarket.. Any mid to late '80s FXR will get you through the motor and the front end.. You'll have to find early '80s super glide for the trans and for the rear brake drum which is even earlier than that thinking like 74, 75..
Without taking the primary part just looking at the belt it appears that it's either a Rivera Primo or a BDL 11 mm setup.. And for information on those you can just go to their websites..
Would be nice to see a complete profile of left and right sides of the bike..
Last edited by 98hotrodfatboy; Mar 20, 2024 at 06:54 PM.
Points plate looks like the ignition timing was set without advancing the cam first. There is an auto advance unit in behind that points plate that advances the cam as revs rise. You have to grab the cam and twist it in the direction of rotation before setting the points to just open. (cigarette paper is the traditional tool for points just opening.) If you are fitting a new electronic ignition system, follow its setting directions carefully. Some still use that auto advance unit and so must be set with the cam in the advanced position. If you dont, the ignition timing will be about 30 degrees too advanced and she will kick like a mule.
Been riding my kick-only, points-fired Ironhead for 46 years and it still fires up first live kick after two priming kicks. Getting to be a bitch as my body wears out though. I see an e-start in our future.
how can you see the timing is off from this side ?
Thought I should sync with the point on the other side og the engine
Because I run an evo on points with a kicker and my timing is done as it should be
The timing plate shouldnt be at max advance. The liklihood is the previous owner / seller put these in and didnt know how to time it properly so went by ear.
Its easy to end up advancing the plate because it raises the idle. If the jetting was wrong or the carb idle adjuster not set right, or even if the owner didnt understand that evos take time to warm up in the morning and need some choke to warm up, they might have just spun the plate fwd to get it to "sound correct".
Hi guys thank you for all you help , I really appreciate it.
I got all the new parts .
new spark plugs.
a ingition kit , with new everything, new wire ,and I installed it today .
Also cleaned the carb and so on ,
Checked the sparks , it's nice and blue.
When I was setting the timing , I followed the the valves , and checked with the timing mark .
And It all seemed nice.
when I was kicking today, the was no kick back AT ALL, nothing .
But unfortunately i didn't get her to run .
but she was farting alot , and it seems like she was so close .
I tried using engine start spray .
she was fartin out the exhaust and sometimes and out the carb .
so now im wondering, what I'm missing 🤔
could I have set the timing wrong ?
If its set wrong , she would kick ! I know that for sure 😆
but what do you guys think ?
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