Ultima engines your results
4th Gear
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I agree 100% with the fact that these motors are an incredible bargin. I paid 4k for my 127, brand new in a box. I could sell my stock HD mill for 1.5k. So for $2500, and my free labor, I am leaving my buddies at the light, with their screaming eagle heads, and all that HD bullshit. And their jaws are hanging, because I am doing it at 4000rpm, rear tire smokin, and holding the front wheel 3 to 4 inches off the ground the entire time.
Hopfully the thing will stay together, but so far, it seems to be good, knock on wood.
Hopfully the thing will stay together, but so far, it seems to be good, knock on wood.
Road Warrior
Joined: Apr 2007
Posts: 1,354
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From: S.W. Florida
I agree 100% with the fact that these motors are an incredible bargin. I paid 4k for my 127, brand new in a box. I could sell my stock HD mill for 1.5k. So for $2500, and my free labor, I am leaving my buddies at the light, with their screaming eagle heads, and all that HD bullshit. And their jaws are hanging, because I am doing it at 4000rpm, rear tire smokin, and holding the front wheel 3 to 4 inches off the ground the entire time.
Hopfully the thing will stay together, but so far, it seems to be good, knock on wood.
Hopfully the thing will stay together, but so far, it seems to be good, knock on wood.
I agree that the Ultimas are a good bang for the buck and may go that way if I ever blow my engine. I just need to be sure that ALL of the teething problems have been solved. If I go that way, it'll either be a 113 or Demons 114. If not, all an old man needs is a new HD 80" engine with a few mods to make 1hp per inch.
Last edited by Buddy WMC; Mar 24, 2010 at 02:52 PM.
4th Gear
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No disrespect intended, but if you get down my way, stop by. I'll show you an old 93 85" EVO FXR that will do 120 in third with a six speed. Yep, It'll pick the front wheel up in fourth and fifth with some of that Screamin Eagle ported BS on it. Smoked a 09 SE 110 Fat Bob with a stainless VH 2 into 1 setup and race tuner last weekend.
I agree that the Ultimas are a good bang for the buck and may go that way if I ever blow my engine. I just need to be sure that ALL of the teething problems have been solved. If I go that way, it'll either be a 113 or Demons 114. If not, all an old man needs is a new HD 80" engine with a few mods to make 1hp per inch.
I agree that the Ultimas are a good bang for the buck and may go that way if I ever blow my engine. I just need to be sure that ALL of the teething problems have been solved. If I go that way, it'll either be a 113 or Demons 114. If not, all an old man needs is a new HD 80" engine with a few mods to make 1hp per inch.
That evo sound pretty crazy, 120 mph in third. Sick!!! Love it!!!
Road Warrior
Joined: Apr 2007
Posts: 1,354
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From: S.W. Florida
Yep,
And got witnesses including my dyno tuner, who actually did it. Like stated whipped the $hit out of a new 110 2009 SE Fat Bob with the aforementioned upgrades. He's still stewing about what he spent for a factory hot rod to what we built ourselves.
I really have too much cam and am researching alternatives for better strret manners without loosing the midrange and top end. Not real good street manners with the 252 duration on the 5015, but great for head flow and on the Interstate at high speed or when I grab a handful having the 6 speed. BTW, my dyno tuner is also my best friend and helped me build the bike.
Thanks for not taking offense as some folks do. Only telling it how it really it is.
And got witnesses including my dyno tuner, who actually did it. Like stated whipped the $hit out of a new 110 2009 SE Fat Bob with the aforementioned upgrades. He's still stewing about what he spent for a factory hot rod to what we built ourselves.
I really have too much cam and am researching alternatives for better strret manners without loosing the midrange and top end. Not real good street manners with the 252 duration on the 5015, but great for head flow and on the Interstate at high speed or when I grab a handful having the 6 speed. BTW, my dyno tuner is also my best friend and helped me build the bike.
Thanks for not taking offense as some folks do. Only telling it how it really it is.
Last edited by Buddy WMC; Mar 25, 2010 at 04:29 PM.
Cruiser
Joined: Nov 2007
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From: Florida Space Coast
Well, I gotta say this. I have built and raced many small block motors. Ford, Chevy and Mopar. Also build Recips and Jet motors while employed my Uncle Sammy, had a few sportys and old iron-heads that kicked ***, and the '95 80 incher in my dresser was dynoed at 80 hp w/stage 3 mods. I may not be the most knowlagble gearhead out there, but for the dollar, I can truely say that the Ultima 113 that I now have has got to be the best $ I have ever spent without having to ANYTHING but drop it in and haul ***!!!
Again I have to reiterate that, You need to know and trust a good mechanic (and have the money) or do your own work to get anything out of an EVO motor.
The other Cos. that make big bore/stroke quality motors have been out there a long time, but they want the money for it too. We do get to make choices!!!
Again I have to reiterate that, You need to know and trust a good mechanic (and have the money) or do your own work to get anything out of an EVO motor.
The other Cos. that make big bore/stroke quality motors have been out there a long time, but they want the money for it too. We do get to make choices!!!
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Tourer
Joined: Feb 2008
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From: Richmond BC.
The big difference between a complete motor and a stock motor hop up is the complete motor is 1/4" wider for the larger bore (4" and more) so there is only so much you can do with the stock cases besides with a complete motor it's all designed to work together. For example on the 127 it has larger valves, 1.69/1 ratio roller rockers. a 1.67" crank pin .927 wrist pins. larger ports heavier valve springs 640 lift cam larger carb, ignition designed for the engine. A lot of money to do all of this to a stock motor besides with the narrower cases there is a limit to Cu inches. I had a really hot 80" back in 1984 but I could only go so far with that engine, it really went but not in the same league as this 127.
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4th Gear
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People tend to underestimate the actual cost of their engine build. I know I do. Maybe it stems from all the years of hiding it from the wife. But there most certainly is a strong desire to create your own engine build. That is what I really enjoy. So even if you considered a 127 Ultima a starting point. From there you have some head work done, cams, whatever. You are still way ahead from a cost standpoint at 4k, and the sale of your stock engine, you are on your way to 150 hp. That is some insane HP on the street.
Road Warrior
Joined: Apr 2007
Posts: 1,354
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From: S.W. Florida
People tend to underestimate the actual cost of their engine build. I know I do. Maybe it stems from all the years of hiding it from the wife. But there most certainly is a strong desire to create your own engine build. That is what I really enjoy. So even if you considered a 127 Ultima a starting point. From there you have some head work done, cams, whatever. You are still way ahead from a cost standpoint at 4k, and the sale of your stock engine, you are on your way to 150 hp. That is some insane HP on the street.