EVO All Evo Model Discussion

Excessive material in cam cover screen filter

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old May 21, 2014 | 12:44 PM
  #1  
Pinetop's Avatar
Pinetop
Thread Starter
|
Tourer
Joined: Jul 2012
Posts: 421
Likes: 1
From: louisiana
Default Excessive material in cam cover screen filter

I have experienced lately a problem with the tubular tappet screen filter on the cam chest stopping up and causing the bottom-end to have excessive oil and thereby cause an ugly vibration. When I remove the filter it is clogged with material that I cannot identify. I have a picture of this mornings deposits attached.( Magnified considerably) When I remove the trash the bottom end quiets down and all is good until the filter is clogged again. The first sign is of course the bike runs hotter(temperature wise) then the vibrations start and by now I know what is going down. When I remove trash all goes well. I have tried everything except pulling the top-end apart to get to the problem. No trash or very little in the cam chest and/or the breather valve, some small particles but not out of the ordinary. Any ideas? I am still having a small amount of oil coming from the breather (out tube) however, that ends when the filter and other two compartments are cleaned out. Could this be carbon? It looks more fibrous to me. It would mean that the bike is producing a great deal of carbon which is then getting circulated to the screen filter. I have looked thru the spark plug hole to get an idea if that amount seems present but it does not allow me to see anything which I would call excessive. I see a small amount of carbon on piston head but can not determine if there is more than normal. If you have an idea or have had this experience please let me know because I am tempted now to tear her down install the ev72 and get to the bottom of this problem if I can't get to the cause any other way.

Pinetop

P.S. Resolved the loose shifter problem once and for all hopefully. After two new shifters and many attempts to solve the problem I trimmed 3/16ths off of the shifter where the gap is located, tapped and installed stainless thread insert in the bottom half of shifter boot, and used a grade 8.8 5/16 X 18 bolt and clamped onto the shifter shaft with some significant force and all is well. I can't tell you guys all of the attempts because time does not permit but this solution does work and has worked now for two weeks and approximately 2200 miles so I think it is permanent.
 
Attached Thumbnails Excessive material in cam cover screen filter-material-tappet-screen05212014-1.jpg  
Reply
Old May 21, 2014 | 12:48 PM
  #2  
texashillcountry's Avatar
texashillcountry
Dirt don't hurt
Veteran: Navy
15 Year Member
Top Answer: 1
Top Answer: 3
Joined: Jan 2011
Posts: 21,065
Likes: 4,561
From: Haslet Texas
Default

Have you tried cleaning out your oil tank?
Could your oil lines be disintegrating on the inside?
 
Reply
Old May 21, 2014 | 12:56 PM
  #3  
CraigB1960's Avatar
CraigB1960
Advanced
Joined: Feb 2014
Posts: 70
Likes: 1
From: Albuquerque, NM
Default

The tappet screen/port feeds your tappets and top end. It traps crap coming from your oil pump.

Looks to me to be fiber, perhaps from the filter. I would drain the oil tank and look for crap in there. Flush it, change your filter, run the engine with the return off into a container until all oil is clear. See if this cleans it up.
 
Reply
Old May 21, 2014 | 01:25 PM
  #4  
Pinetop's Avatar
Pinetop
Thread Starter
|
Tourer
Joined: Jul 2012
Posts: 421
Likes: 1
From: louisiana
Default How do you run a flush

I have asked this before here and did not get a detailed response but how do you run the flush which you describe. How do you set it up so that the engine has oil from a tank suspended connected to oil feed line? Will this remove this material if it is in the cases? If not then taking the heads off and getting underneath the cylinders looks like the only way to do it right? I have changed the oil three times since this issue has arisen and the problem still persists. My understanding is that to flush the cases without taking them apart you must gain access thru spigots for cylinders is this not correct?
 
Reply
Old May 21, 2014 | 01:33 PM
  #5  
Pinetop's Avatar
Pinetop
Thread Starter
|
Tourer
Joined: Jul 2012
Posts: 421
Likes: 1
From: louisiana
Default oil lines were changed

Originally Posted by Pinetop
I have asked this before here and did not get a detailed response but how do you run the flush which you describe. How do you set it up so that the engine has oil from a tank suspended connected to oil feed line? Will this remove this material if it is in the cases? If not then taking the heads off and getting underneath the cylinders looks like the only way to do it right? I have changed the oil three times since this issue has arisen and the problem still persists. My understanding is that to flush the cases without taking them apart you must gain access thru spigots for cylinders is this not correct?

I also changed the oil lines 2 years ago when I first did top end. They could not be disintegrating already?

Pinetop
 
Reply
Old May 21, 2014 | 10:15 PM
  #6  
D_gyver's Avatar
D_gyver
Road Master
Joined: Feb 2014
Posts: 913
Likes: 5
From: indiana
Default

ive seen this one time it turned out to be a defective K&N oil filter.
we cleaned the tank and changed the oil lines and installed a new filter
 
Reply
Old May 21, 2014 | 10:16 PM
  #7  
Spanners39's Avatar
Spanners39
Seasoned HDF Member
15 Year Member
Photogenic
Liked
Loved
Joined: Dec 2010
Posts: 7,736
Likes: 1,524
From: Coromandel Peninsula New Zealand
Default

Originally Posted by CraigB1960
The tappet screen/port feeds your tappets and top end. It traps crap coming from your oil pump.

Looks to me to be fiber, perhaps from the filter. I would drain the oil tank and look for crap in there. Flush it, change your filter, run the engine with the return off into a container until all oil is clear. See if this cleans it up.
What he said, I would pull the oil filter and cut it open and see if its falling apart.
 
Reply
Old May 21, 2014 | 10:52 PM
  #8  
Pinetop's Avatar
Pinetop
Thread Starter
|
Tourer
Joined: Jul 2012
Posts: 421
Likes: 1
From: louisiana
Default Filtered oil twice

Originally Posted by Spanners39
What he said, I would pull the oil filter and cut it open and see if its falling apart.
Filtered oil twice this evening pulling from oil tank no fiber. I will pull oil filter tomorrow I checked air filter last week.
 
Reply
HD Forum Stories

The Best of Harley-Davidson for Lifelong Riders

story-0

7 Times Harley-Davidson Chucked Tradition Out the Window

 Verdad Gallardo
story-1

7 Surprising Harley-Davidson Products that Are Not Motorcycles

 Verdad Gallardo
story-2

8 Best Harley-Davidson Motorcycles Ever

 Pouria Savadkouei
story-3

10 Worst Harley-Davidson Motorcycles Ever

 Pouria Savadkouei
story-4

Killer Custom's Jail Break Is The Breakout That Refused to Blend In

 Verdad Gallardo
story-5

Crazy Bunderbike Build Looks Amazing, But Is It Impossible to Ride?

 Verdad Gallardo
story-6

Harley-Davidson Reveals Super Cool Cafe Racer Concept

 Verdad Gallardo
story-7

Engraved Rebellion: Inside Bundnerbike's Glam Rock II

 Verdad Gallardo
story-8

10 Motorcycles You Should Never Buy

 Joe Kucinski
story-9

10 Things Harley-Davidson Needs to Fix in 2026

 Verdad Gallardo
Old May 22, 2014 | 06:47 AM
  #9  
johnjzjz's Avatar
johnjzjz
Seasoned HDF Member
15 Year Member
Top Answer: 3
Joined: Nov 2006
Posts: 12,878
Likes: 5,449
From: la la land jerzey
Default

fibre can come from two places and i have seen this before

first the cheap china 30 cent paper in the filter - outsourcing being done as we speak

DONT TAKE THIS THE WRONG WAY

when you installed the cam you introduced the media your self using a rag to wipe the parts -- OR your parts washer fluid is filthy from not having a car oil filter in line -- OR you did not wash the stuff at all, it was wiped off or handled after wiping hands all the pieces going back in the motor --

been in a shop many many years seen Good guys not thinking do very dopey things -
 
Reply
Old May 22, 2014 | 07:31 AM
  #10  
Pinetop's Avatar
Pinetop
Thread Starter
|
Tourer
Joined: Jul 2012
Posts: 421
Likes: 1
From: louisiana
Default no offense taken I asked the question

Originally Posted by johnjzjz
fibre can come from two places and i have seen this before

first the cheap china 30 cent paper in the filter - outsourcing being done as we speak

DONT TAKE THIS THE WRONG WAY

when you installed the cam you introduced the media your self using a rag to wipe the parts -- OR your parts washer fluid is filthy from not having a car oil filter in line -- OR you did not wash the stuff at all, it was wiped off or handled after wiping hands all the pieces going back in the motor --

been in a shop many many years seen Good guys not thinking do very dopey things -
purchased filter from Calente' Harley in San Antonio. my first lesson from the president of club was hot water and dawn followed by comp. air. i have to travel one and 1/2 hour to get filter today then I will open it up.
 
Reply



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 09:51 AM.

story-0
7 Times Harley-Davidson Chucked Tradition Out the Window

Slideshow: Harley-Davidson built its reputation on nostalgia, but every so often, the company took a hard left turn into the future.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-20 11:18:19


VIEW MORE
story-1
7 Surprising Harley-Davidson Products that Are Not Motorcycles

Slideshow: The bar-and-shield logo shows up on far more than motorcycles, some of the company's most unexpected products have nothing to do with riding.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-04-29 16:50:35


VIEW MORE
story-2
8 Best Harley-Davidson Motorcycles Ever

Slideshow: Not every Harley gets it right, but these are the ones that genuinely earned their reputation.

By Pouria Savadkouei | 2026-04-15 14:23:21


VIEW MORE
story-3
10 Worst Harley-Davidson Motorcycles Ever

Slideshow: From the troubled AMF years to modern misfires, these bikes earned reputations for reliability issues, questionable engineering, or disappointing performance.

By Pouria Savadkouei | 2026-04-01 20:01:09


VIEW MORE
story-4
Killer Custom's Jail Break Is The Breakout That Refused to Blend In

Slideshow: Killer Custom's "Jail Breaker" build focuses more on stance and visual aggression than mechanical overhaul.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-03-18 19:20:32


VIEW MORE
story-5
Crazy Bunderbike Build Looks Amazing, But Is It Impossible to Ride?

Slideshow: The Swiss custom shop has taken a Harley Softail and stretched it into something so long and low that it looks closer to a rolling sculpture than a conventional motorcycle.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-03-07 16:15:30


VIEW MORE
story-6
Harley-Davidson Reveals Super Cool Cafe Racer Concept

Slideshow: Harley-Davidson's new RMCR concept revives the café racer formula with modern hardware-and it may be exactly the reset the company needs.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-03-04 12:23:37


VIEW MORE
story-7
Engraved Rebellion: Inside Bundnerbike's Glam Rock II

Slideshow: A standard cruiser becomes an intricate metal canvas in the hands of a Swiss custom house known for pushing Harley-Davidson platforms far beyond their factory brief.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-02-24 18:19:44


VIEW MORE
story-8
10 Motorcycles You Should Never Buy

Slideshow: There is no shortage of great motorcycles to buy, but we would avoid these ten.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-02-19 14:50:51


VIEW MORE
story-9
10 Things Harley-Davidson Needs to Fix in 2026

Slideshow: Harley-Davidson's challenges aren't abstract; they show up in dropping shipments, shrinking dealer traffic, and strategic decisions that aren't yet translating into growth.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-01-13 18:33:17


VIEW MORE