my first Evo Harley
Tourer
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From: Minnesota
I'm curious what the pro shop guys on this board think. If it were me doing this repair on somebody else's bike and I dropped pieces of the cam bearing into the case I'd consider that my fault and split the cases, clean things up just because I screwed up. IMO that would be the right thing to do. I am not a pro mechanic and I don't own shop so I don't know if that would be how things should be handled. I did run a small guitar amplifier repair service out of my basement for a few years. If I screwed up a customers instrument I ate the cost and made it right.
Dirt don't hurt
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From: Haslet Texas
I'm curious what the pro shop guys on this board think. If it were me doing this repair on somebody else's bike and I dropped pieces of the cam bearing into the case I'd consider that my fault and split the cases, clean things up just because I screwed up. IMO that would be the right thing to do. I am not a pro mechanic and I don't own shop so I don't know if that would be how things should be handled. I did run a small guitar amplifier repair service out of my basement for a few years. If I screwed up a customers instrument I ate the cost and made it right.
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From: Canton, Michigan
Yeah, saw the pics and it IS a nice looking Ultra. Really like the color combo. If I had room for another 'toy', I'd put my name of the list of people that would buy it 'as is'. If the price was right. And I could hide it from the OL for a bit. I find it easier to answer, "When did you get that?", versus "Where the hell did that come from?"....
The OP traded straight up his 2005 for it, and I have zero idea what those are worth on the open market. I keep an eye on the EVO market, just for S&G's. So I have an idea what prices are being asked.
But that doesn't change the basic fact (like you posted), he traded a working bike for one that has 'issues'.
I agree 100%. On both assessments.
From his pics, I don't think it looks all that bad. But that's just from looking at the pics. Without doing some measuring, and some additional inspection, no one can really say.
However: Depending on what the OP's future plans might be for the bike, if he decides to keep it (new/bigger engine?), IMHO, I might just pull stuff out of the cam chest, pull the oil pump, clean everything up, douche the oil lines out, replace the bearing/cam and perhaps the breather (might as well), and ride it. IF, everything else checks out. Difficult to assess without physically being there.
But I've been known to gamble a bit.
The OP traded straight up his 2005 for it, and I have zero idea what those are worth on the open market. I keep an eye on the EVO market, just for S&G's. So I have an idea what prices are being asked.
But that doesn't change the basic fact (like you posted), he traded a working bike for one that has 'issues'.
From his pics, I don't think it looks all that bad. But that's just from looking at the pics. Without doing some measuring, and some additional inspection, no one can really say.
However: Depending on what the OP's future plans might be for the bike, if he decides to keep it (new/bigger engine?), IMHO, I might just pull stuff out of the cam chest, pull the oil pump, clean everything up, douche the oil lines out, replace the bearing/cam and perhaps the breather (might as well), and ride it. IF, everything else checks out. Difficult to assess without physically being there.
But I've been known to gamble a bit.
Road Master
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From: indiana
I'm curious what the pro shop guys on this board think. If it were me doing this repair on somebody else's bike and I dropped pieces of the cam bearing into the case I'd consider that my fault and split the cases, clean things up just because I screwed up. IMO that would be the right thing to do. I am not a pro mechanic and I don't own shop so I don't know if that would be how things should be handled. I did run a small guitar amplifier repair service out of my basement for a few years. If I screwed up a customers instrument I ate the cost and made it right.
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From: la la land jerzey
I'm curious what the pro shop guys on this board think. If it were me doing this repair on somebody else's bike and I dropped pieces of the cam bearing into the case I'd consider that my fault and split the cases, clean things up just because I screwed up. IMO that would be the right thing to do. I am not a pro mechanic and I don't own shop so I don't know if that would be how things should be handled. I did run a small guitar amplifier repair service out of my basement for a few years. If I screwed up a customers instrument I ate the cost and made it right.
what i did is what most would do tell the customer oil pump has gone away and we need replacement -- OK we installed a new pump and in doing so primed it and packed the gears in transmission assembly lube - WELL that did not fix it ( still only pumps oil in not out )
-- ok what happened is //// who ever did the top end had inadvertently let a piece of the wire harness covering fall into the open block, and it in turn with in a few days of riding was sucked into the oil passage and got stuck in the drilled hole in the sportys engine block stopping all return oil going into the return gearing - yep spilt the cases to find it
who pays for that job -- think about that for a moment - if you guessed i did your right
BUT do you tell the customer what happend and what you did to fix it --
Tourer
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From: Minnesota
quick story - i had a 90 sporty that came into the shop someone else had done a top end and the bike, than this happened - only pumped oil into the block not out - so i removed the pump and the return gearing was burnt up -- what do you think happened
what i did is what most would do tell the customer oil pump has gone away and we need replacement -- OK we installed a new pump and in doing so primed it and packed the gears in transmission assembly lube - WELL that did not fix it ( still only pumps oil in not out )
-- ok what happened is //// who ever did the top end had inadvertently let a piece of the wire harness covering fall into the open block, and it in turn with in a few days of riding was sucked into the oil passage and got stuck in the drilled hole in the sportys engine block stopping all return oil going into the return gearing - yep spilt the cases to find it
who pays for that job -- think about that for a moment - if you guessed i did your right
BUT do you tell the customer what happend and what you did to fix it --
what i did is what most would do tell the customer oil pump has gone away and we need replacement -- OK we installed a new pump and in doing so primed it and packed the gears in transmission assembly lube - WELL that did not fix it ( still only pumps oil in not out )
-- ok what happened is //// who ever did the top end had inadvertently let a piece of the wire harness covering fall into the open block, and it in turn with in a few days of riding was sucked into the oil passage and got stuck in the drilled hole in the sportys engine block stopping all return oil going into the return gearing - yep spilt the cases to find it
who pays for that job -- think about that for a moment - if you guessed i did your right
BUT do you tell the customer what happend and what you did to fix it --
Road Master
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From: Mo
Serious question for the OP..WTF is the guy you traded saying about this!!? I would at least go "talk" to him to ley him know what the deal is! "IF" he is any kind of man, he would chip in on the repair. If he doesn't then I would "calmly" let him know how he screwed you over!
And if you decide to cut your loses, i have cash in hand! Depending on how much. That bike is yelling for a stroker!
And if you decide to cut your loses, i have cash in hand! Depending on how much. That bike is yelling for a stroker!
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