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I have had Jap up till now. Have an 05 Ultra Classic with 1400 KM..Ya thats Canadian talk for still new. I noticed the other day when I started it that almost directly behind the shifter I can hear like a rolling, rattle, kinda minor clunky noice when on its stand and at an idle. I am wondering if anyone has any idea what this noice could be and is it from something I did when driving it or something out of my contraol. I think I have been gentle on it..Never over 3000 rpm..Just started going over 100 kph..Normal in town put put at around 2200 rpm..Seems to run fine3 but I hear this and wonder if something is wrong. I do notice that when I start out and am letting the clutch out, it seems smoothe till the last bit of engagement and then sort of grabs a bit more harshly...What is at the very front area behing the cover..Is there going to be some adjustments made next week for its first service that will take care of some of the noise and clutch grab..HELP..New to the Harley scene..
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Could be one of two things, If as you mention up front in the primary cover, there is a compensator nut that does come loose from time to time but this would sound like a bad rod knock as it gets louder and looser. Must be taken care of before it does damage to primary cover. The other thing it could be is a primary chain in need of adjustment.
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Hello from a fellow Canadian! I'd go with TC's advice as he diagnosed my similar problem right on the head! He diagnosed a loose primary chain and that's exactly what it was.
I was recently (last Thursday) molested by the local dealer out here after taking the bike in for it's first service. They adjusted/tightened the primary chain (Thanks TC) and did the service check. Cost me $250.06!!! Some say it's not that bad, others say it's worth it for the "first" inspection in order to ensure a smooth break-in period. Either way I was not prepared to shell out that much money. However, I sucked it up, learned a lesson and bought a torqu wench. If you haven't already done so, i suggest you pick up the OEM manual for your bike. Best money i ever spent! I'm a newbie at all this myself but that manual (and this board) have helped me a lot.
GWV
I was recently (last Thursday) molested by the local dealer out here after taking the bike in for it's first service. They adjusted/tightened the primary chain (Thanks TC) and did the service check. Cost me $250.06!!! Some say it's not that bad, others say it's worth it for the "first" inspection in order to ensure a smooth break-in period. Either way I was not prepared to shell out that much money. However, I sucked it up, learned a lesson and bought a torqu wench. If you haven't already done so, i suggest you pick up the OEM manual for your bike. Best money i ever spent! I'm a newbie at all this myself but that manual (and this board) have helped me a lot.
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yota,
I agree with the loose primary chain most likely, when chains are new they really stretch a lot to begin with and after that the stretch rate is much slower. I would advise you to buy a service manual for your bike, and if you have mechanical skills you can do pretty much all of the normal maintenance yourself. Just a few tools are needed and you may already have them. There is many DIY articles here, and all the free advice you can stand.
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I agree with the loose primary chain most likely, when chains are new they really stretch a lot to begin with and after that the stretch rate is much slower. I would advise you to buy a service manual for your bike, and if you have mechanical skills you can do pretty much all of the normal maintenance yourself. Just a few tools are needed and you may already have them. There is many DIY articles here, and all the free advice you can stand.
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There is a noise similar to this when the rubber muffler mount at the rear of the muffler gets worn or the rubber gets dry. This should not be the case on a new bike, but to check it just wait until you hear the noise, and then put your foot on the muffler. If the sound is coming from there it will stop. To stop it without replacing the rubber, just put a little brake fluid on the rubber to lubricate it.
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RE: Noise not normal
ORIGINAL: yota
I noticed the other day when I started it that almost
directly behind the shifter I can hear like a rolling,
rattle, kinda minor clunky noice when on its stand
and at an idle.
I noticed the other day when I started it that almost
directly behind the shifter I can hear like a rolling,
rattle, kinda minor clunky noice when on its stand
and at an idle.
I would bet on the primary drive chain needing some
minor adjusting. They stretch real fast when new, and a
loose primary drive chain makes a lot of noise at low RPM
and may make your low speed ride some-what jurky.
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Again you gentlemen have seemingly nailed it on the head. With my bike when I first posted my concerns/complaints, I had 1340 km's (or thereabouts). The mechanic at the shop said exactly what you are all saying here in which "the primary chain is notorious for becoming stretched and loose during the break-in period."
My bike had the same exact problems as described in this thread. I could have saved a bunch of money had i switched to Geico...oooppss, sorry, wrong train of thought...I could've saved a bunch of money had i had a torque wrench nearby and done this myself.
For all you wrench heads out there, for a newbie like me, what in your opinion(s) are the top tools to have around the garage, and what tools would you suggest a newbie carry with them in their saddlebags on a long trip? The reason I ask this question is that on or near the 20th of August I plan on riding from Newfoundland to Toronto (Ontario). This is approximately a 2500 kilometre (1,555 miles..give or take 5 miles... one way). Of course I'll be returning along the same route after the visit is over and understand the need to have the bike inspected and serviced to and from both destinations.
Thank you all in advance.
GWV
My bike had the same exact problems as described in this thread. I could have saved a bunch of money had i switched to Geico...oooppss, sorry, wrong train of thought...I could've saved a bunch of money had i had a torque wrench nearby and done this myself.
For all you wrench heads out there, for a newbie like me, what in your opinion(s) are the top tools to have around the garage, and what tools would you suggest a newbie carry with them in their saddlebags on a long trip? The reason I ask this question is that on or near the 20th of August I plan on riding from Newfoundland to Toronto (Ontario). This is approximately a 2500 kilometre (1,555 miles..give or take 5 miles... one way). Of course I'll be returning along the same route after the visit is over and understand the need to have the bike inspected and serviced to and from both destinations.
Thank you all in advance.
GWV
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Luc
Snap on is the best tools but they are rather pricy, I have mostly craftsman tools including torque wrenches and find that they are good tools with a free replacement policy if they wear or break. Over the past 35 years ,I've replaced just about all the tools in my box at one time or another, its a great option.
Snap on is the best tools but they are rather pricy, I have mostly craftsman tools including torque wrenches and find that they are good tools with a free replacement policy if they wear or break. Over the past 35 years ,I've replaced just about all the tools in my box at one time or another, its a great option.
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Thank You TC.
Yesterday while browsing through the local Canadian Tire Store I found a cheap torque wrench for around $22.00. I didn't buy it seeing how it looked pretty cheap. It's one of those long wrenches with the steel needle gauge. I was wondering if they're worth maybe having around as an emergency back up tool, and wondered if they are even accurate or not? I did notice of the half dozen or so tools they had, not a single one had the needle sitting on zero...so i guess that pretty much answers my question.
As for Snap-On, I agree they are the best around, but for someone like me who's virtually new to a wrench, what would be the next best thing? I saw one in Canadian tire in the glass case for around $89.00 and was much shorter than the primitive long handled needle gauged one for $22.00.
If you had to pick and only bring 5 tools with you on a road trip, what would they be and why? This is a serious question and not simply a little game to see who would bring what, I'm trying to figure out what are the best tools to always have on hand in my tool pouch on the bike. So far all I've been carrying are a set of Hex Keys, a small handled all-in-one Torx set, Loctite (red), tie-wraps (others call them zip cords) and a small adjustable wrench.
I'll be going on a long ride in a couple of weeks and want to ensure I have the basic necessities with me. A few buddies have told me not to worry about it seeing how it's a "new" bike and covered under warranty and all, but I'd still look pretty stupid on the side of the road holding that plastic 1-800 card in my hand while scratching my head.
Thank you in advance.
Yesterday while browsing through the local Canadian Tire Store I found a cheap torque wrench for around $22.00. I didn't buy it seeing how it looked pretty cheap. It's one of those long wrenches with the steel needle gauge. I was wondering if they're worth maybe having around as an emergency back up tool, and wondered if they are even accurate or not? I did notice of the half dozen or so tools they had, not a single one had the needle sitting on zero...so i guess that pretty much answers my question.
As for Snap-On, I agree they are the best around, but for someone like me who's virtually new to a wrench, what would be the next best thing? I saw one in Canadian tire in the glass case for around $89.00 and was much shorter than the primitive long handled needle gauged one for $22.00.
If you had to pick and only bring 5 tools with you on a road trip, what would they be and why? This is a serious question and not simply a little game to see who would bring what, I'm trying to figure out what are the best tools to always have on hand in my tool pouch on the bike. So far all I've been carrying are a set of Hex Keys, a small handled all-in-one Torx set, Loctite (red), tie-wraps (others call them zip cords) and a small adjustable wrench.
I'll be going on a long ride in a couple of weeks and want to ensure I have the basic necessities with me. A few buddies have told me not to worry about it seeing how it's a "new" bike and covered under warranty and all, but I'd still look pretty stupid on the side of the road holding that plastic 1-800 card in my hand while scratching my head.
Thank you in advance.
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