Help find Larry Weaver
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From: Wisconsin, USA
Sounds like you and Ron live in some dicey areas. Over here in God's country we just fill up and pay whenever we get around to it. Don't need no stinkin zip codes. 
On the topic - getting a few shares on my FB acct. I posted on the Wisconsin Rider page and hopefully that will get the word around these parts. Hoping for the best.
On the topic - getting a few shares on my FB acct. I posted on the Wisconsin Rider page and hopefully that will get the word around these parts. Hoping for the best.
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Just messin with you and Larry, Ron. I lived in Central Wisco for 5 years. In general I agree. I'm in Lake Country which is about as safe as it gets though.
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Every time I use my CC at ANY gas station I have to key in my zip code. It's mandated by the CC company not the FBI crime rolls. Of course I live in Southern California so maybe we are just backward country folk out here.
(All the stupid liberal politicians aside
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OP, I sure hope you find your friend, and in good shape.
(All the stupid liberal politicians aside)OP, I sure hope you find your friend, and in good shape.
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From: South Florida
Sad to hear. I was hoping for a good ending to this thread.
As far as his keys go. His bike might not have needed the fob or he had the system disabled. I have a 2016 road glide that has no fob.
Also he could have met someone and they set him up. A lot of pretty girls out there waiting for sweet old men to lure them into a trap. The fact that he left without any personal items could be an indication of that.
The theory of him catching a thief in the act is slim. Most bike thieves would simply drive off instead of kidnapping a man. But I guess weird things do happen.
Hopefully this story has a happy ending.
As far as his keys go. His bike might not have needed the fob or he had the system disabled. I have a 2016 road glide that has no fob.
Also he could have met someone and they set him up. A lot of pretty girls out there waiting for sweet old men to lure them into a trap. The fact that he left without any personal items could be an indication of that.
The theory of him catching a thief in the act is slim. Most bike thieves would simply drive off instead of kidnapping a man. But I guess weird things do happen.
Hopefully this story has a happy ending.
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I was pretty clear. I travel a lot for a living and the whole zip code thing at the pump started in less desirable neighborhoods in my experience. Same thing with spray paint. Walk into your local Home Depot and if they have to unlock the paint, you're probably in a less than desirable area. Sorry.....just an observation. It's not quantitative. I'm sure there are wonderful neighborhoods that require a zip code. But, in general, if they ask for one, it's because they have a problem in that region.
Things happen for a reason. They are not random. The world works in very predictable ways and if you keep your eyes open, you can see what's coming before it arrives. My old man taught me to read my surroundings. Things as simple as gas pump zip code requirements are all part of that. And that's the point of this as it relates to the topic. OP's friend probably, and unfortunately, didn't see something bad coming his way. I sincerely hope I am wrong. I pray for a good ending to this.
That's just my take. No insult intended. Let's focus on the topic, and maybe learn from it if we travel.
Things happen for a reason. They are not random. The world works in very predictable ways and if you keep your eyes open, you can see what's coming before it arrives. My old man taught me to read my surroundings. Things as simple as gas pump zip code requirements are all part of that. And that's the point of this as it relates to the topic. OP's friend probably, and unfortunately, didn't see something bad coming his way. I sincerely hope I am wrong. I pray for a good ending to this.
That's just my take. No insult intended. Let's focus on the topic, and maybe learn from it if we travel.
Last edited by nevada72; Jun 30, 2016 at 06:05 PM.
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I was pretty clear. I travel a lot for a living and the whole zip code thing at the pump started in less desirable neighborhoods in my experience. Same thing with spray paint. Walk into your local Home Depot and if they have to unlock the paint, you're probably in a less than desirable area. Sorry.....just an observation. It's not quantitative. I'm sure there are wonderful neighborhoods that require a zip code. But, in general, if they ask for one, it's because they have a problem in that region. Things happen for a reason. They are not random.
Are you saying when you roll into a nice area anywhere in the Country, if it's a nice area, you swipe, pump, and go? No pin or so needed? Sounds cool....never seen it-
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Sad to hear. I was hoping for a good ending to this thread.
As far as his keys go. His bike might not have needed the fob or he had the system disabled. I have a 2016 road glide that has no fob.
Also he could have met someone and they set him up. A lot of pretty girls out there waiting for sweet old men to lure them into a trap. The fact that he left without any personal items could be an indication of that.
The theory of him catching a thief in the act is slim. Most bike thieves would simply drive off instead of kidnapping a man.
As far as his keys go. His bike might not have needed the fob or he had the system disabled. I have a 2016 road glide that has no fob.
Also he could have met someone and they set him up. A lot of pretty girls out there waiting for sweet old men to lure them into a trap. The fact that he left without any personal items could be an indication of that.
The theory of him catching a thief in the act is slim. Most bike thieves would simply drive off instead of kidnapping a man.
Possible, but harm to him after that-no, thieves don't want that kind of heat on them...they rob, and get the hell out of there...BTW, they left his wallet and credit cards in the room.
Then, they decided they also want his Harley, go to get a van, throw his bike in there and grab their mark and carry him out of the motel and put him in the van as well and take off?
Bike thieves don't do that and small town low life's that roll someone for cash don't either...
No, I think Larry crashed somewhere with his bike in thick brush the night before (grabbed some cash and hopped on the bike-it hasn't been established if the keys they found were house keys, as bike keys are frequently separated from the key ring), and they haven't found him yet or he tried to confront a crew stealing his bike and things went real bad real fast...
Godspeed Larry and hope the best for you and your family...
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Beverly Hills requires a zip code (for credit-debit, a pin) at every gas station I have been to there traveling in and thru for the last several years...it's not a neighborhood thing as much as a corporate policy of Visa and MC everywhere.
Are you saying when you roll into a nice area anywhere in the Country, if it's a nice area, you swipe, pump, and go? No pin or so needed? Sounds cool....never seen it-
Are you saying when you roll into a nice area anywhere in the Country, if it's a nice area, you swipe, pump, and go? No pin or so needed? Sounds cool....never seen it-
Yes - more often than not when I'm in a low crime area I don't have to input a zip code. Like where I live. Never have to do it. Ever. And yes - every single time I'm in a shitty neighborhood I do. Do the math. It's not personal. It's just an observation. And my guess is it's spreading from epicenters of higher fraudulent use - kinda like a plague. I'm sure before long it will be required everywhere. And I'm sure that by extension of that theory, it's required in better neighborhoods. I'm just saying that it gets me to wondering when I'm asked for it.
My territory is between the east coast and South Dakota. I cover a LOT of territory. I'm in Detroit one week and I'm in Sturgis SD the next. Guess which area requires a zip code and which one doesn't. Coincidence? No such thing.
And it's not corporate policy. Sometimes I need to do it. Sometimes I don't. It's not uniform. Unless you mean corporate policy to require a zip code in high risk areas. I suspect Beverly Hills, despite having many rich people, also is subject to a lot of credit card fraud. That hits all income brackets.
But hey - you don't like my theory - dismiss it as bullshit and go on your merry way. I do a lot of stuff other people don't do like never have my back to a door in a restaurant and always sleep in the bed away from the door in a hotel room. It's just personal habit picked up along the way. It's not an indictment of where you live.
Lets get back to the important stuff like finding a lost rider.
Last edited by nevada72; Jun 30, 2016 at 07:21 PM.