Help find Larry Weaver
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Damn.....you're good! That's exactly where it was. Pretty bleak town. It was 106 degrees and I was pissed because I couldn't go in the gas station to cool off or take a ****. Didn't want to leave Cheryl out by the bike alone. Chugged a Gatoraide in the lot and got the F outta there.
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The body pulled from the river is a South Carolina man.
http://www.semissourian.com/story/2318284.html
http://www.semissourian.com/story/2318284.html
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Yep I do a lot of traveling and it is rare that I find a pump that does not require me to enter a zip for CC. Entering the zip code is part of AVS (Address verification system) In most cases CC issuing bank will give a discount to merchants if they collect zip code which helps them insure against someone using a stolen card
Good write up on in here in Forbes
http://www.forbes.com/sites/adamtann.../#748db0806d28
Good write up on in here in Forbes
http://www.forbes.com/sites/adamtann.../#748db0806d28
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Oy.....guys.....seriously. To be polite I'll answer the question but we're way off the important topic here.
Yes - more often than not when I'm in a low crime area I don't have to input a zip code. Like where I live. Never have to do it. Ever. And yes - every single time I'm in a shitty neighborhood I do. Do the math. It's not personal. It's just an observation. And my guess is it's spreading from epicenters of higher fraudulent use - kinda like a plague. I'm sure before long it will be required everywhere. And I'm sure that by extension of that theory, it's required in better neighborhoods. I'm just saying that it gets me to wondering when I'm asked for it.
My territory is between the east coast and South Dakota. I cover a LOT of territory. I'm in Detroit one week and I'm in Sturgis SD the next. Guess which area requires a zip code and which one doesn't. Coincidence? No such thing.
And it's not corporate policy. Sometimes I need to do it. Sometimes I don't. It's not uniform. Unless you mean corporate policy to require a zip code in high risk areas. I suspect Beverly Hills, despite having many rich people, also is subject to a lot of credit card fraud. That hits all income brackets.
But hey - you don't like my theory - dismiss it as bullshit and go on your merry way. I do a lot of stuff other people don't do like never have my back to a door in a restaurant and always sleep in the bed away from the door in a hotel room. It's just personal habit picked up along the way. It's not an indictment of where you live.
Lets get back to the important stuff like finding a lost rider.
Yes - more often than not when I'm in a low crime area I don't have to input a zip code. Like where I live. Never have to do it. Ever. And yes - every single time I'm in a shitty neighborhood I do. Do the math. It's not personal. It's just an observation. And my guess is it's spreading from epicenters of higher fraudulent use - kinda like a plague. I'm sure before long it will be required everywhere. And I'm sure that by extension of that theory, it's required in better neighborhoods. I'm just saying that it gets me to wondering when I'm asked for it.
My territory is between the east coast and South Dakota. I cover a LOT of territory. I'm in Detroit one week and I'm in Sturgis SD the next. Guess which area requires a zip code and which one doesn't. Coincidence? No such thing.
And it's not corporate policy. Sometimes I need to do it. Sometimes I don't. It's not uniform. Unless you mean corporate policy to require a zip code in high risk areas. I suspect Beverly Hills, despite having many rich people, also is subject to a lot of credit card fraud. That hits all income brackets.
But hey - you don't like my theory - dismiss it as bullshit and go on your merry way. I do a lot of stuff other people don't do like never have my back to a door in a restaurant and always sleep in the bed away from the door in a hotel room. It's just personal habit picked up along the way. It's not an indictment of where you live.
Lets get back to the important stuff like finding a lost rider.
I do quite a bit of traveling and I am very seldom ever in places where I have to enter my zip to use my card. As for my local area there aren't many pre-pay gas stations, in daylight or after dark. Don't know if there is any connection but according to the latest census listed my entire county is over 97% white.The only other group reaching 1% is Native Americans, all other races are under .5% Not a lot of crime around here, people still leave doors unlocked and you still see people leave their keys in their vehicle when they get out. Just an observation.
Still hope for a good outcome for Larry.
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But a hot young girl could lure him into his or another room and what, roll him for $$$?
Possible, but harm to him after that-no, thieves don't want that kind of heat on them...they rob, and get the hell out of there...BTW, they left his wallet and credit cards in the room.
Then, they decided they also want his Harley, go to get a van, throw his bike in there and grab their mark and carry him out of the motel and put him in the van as well and take off?
Bike thieves don't do that and small town low life's that roll someone for cash don't either...
No, I think Larry crashed somewhere with his bike in thick brush the night before (grabbed some cash and hopped on the bike-it hasn't been established if the keys they found were house keys, as bike keys are frequently separated from the key ring), and they haven't found him yet or he tried to confront a crew stealing his bike and things went real bad real fast...
Godspeed Larry and hope the best for you and your family...
Possible, but harm to him after that-no, thieves don't want that kind of heat on them...they rob, and get the hell out of there...BTW, they left his wallet and credit cards in the room.
Then, they decided they also want his Harley, go to get a van, throw his bike in there and grab their mark and carry him out of the motel and put him in the van as well and take off?
Bike thieves don't do that and small town low life's that roll someone for cash don't either...
No, I think Larry crashed somewhere with his bike in thick brush the night before (grabbed some cash and hopped on the bike-it hasn't been established if the keys they found were house keys, as bike keys are frequently separated from the key ring), and they haven't found him yet or he tried to confront a crew stealing his bike and things went real bad real fast...
Godspeed Larry and hope the best for you and your family...
As the Avalanche/trailer arrives, it comes into the parking lot closer than when it leaves, due to the entry/exits of the parking lot. In my personal opinion, what's on the trailer as it leaves, looks like it could be a motorcycle, laying on it's side.
The video is shown on the local news, and the surveillance segment is from the restaurant that's next door to the motel. See the video here:
http://www.kmov.com/clip/12562760/su...-investigation
As for the credit card discussion; I have two company credit cards for work, that require the zip-code be entered at every gas pump I've ever used them at, in over ten years. Every gas pump. I travel extensively for work, both in different countries and all over our continent. Then I have various, personal debit/credit cards and sometimes they require the zipcode, and sometimes they do not. I don't know why, but I can certainly say it's no immediately affected by the area I'm in. Sometimes... maybe, but not enough to define that as the reason.
Last edited by Wanna Ride; Jul 1, 2016 at 03:15 PM.
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http://www.kmov.com/clip/12562760/su...-investigation
As for the credit card discussion; I have two company credit cards for work, that require the zip-code be entered at every gas pump I've ever used them at, in over ten years. Every gas pump. I travel extensively for work, both in different countries and all over our continent. Then I have various, personal debit/credit cards and sometimes they require the zipcode, and sometimes they do not. I don't know why, but I can certainly say it's no immediately affected by the area I'm in. Sometimes... maybe, but not enough to define that as the reason.
My experience as well all over the South West-
Different parts of the Counrty, according to the poster, must be based on if it is a neighborhood of scumbags, and thieves, need zip or pin.....nice whitey safe area, card is all you need, don't need to check ya, just fill up and go.
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My experience as well. Have to enter zip at every pump I've ever used.
Been through White River several times myself. That whole area is pretty bleak.
Hope there is a happy ending to this story, although its been too long.....
Been through White River several times myself. That whole area is pretty bleak.
Hope there is a happy ending to this story, although its been too long.....