ABS VS non ABS
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That one always makes me chuckle.
Ego is probably the biggest single impediment to learning how to ride a motorcycle properly. Irrational fear is probably # 2. But I find that ego problems and irrational fear usually go hand-in-hand when it comes to the inability to learn to ride a motorcycle properly.
Ego is probably the biggest single impediment to learning how to ride a motorcycle properly. Irrational fear is probably # 2. But I find that ego problems and irrational fear usually go hand-in-hand when it comes to the inability to learn to ride a motorcycle properly.
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Here’s the thing. All the expert riders we have here can continue to threshold brake better then ABS all day long on ABS equipped bikes. I’m clearly not one of you as I’ve had ABS active on me once. But ABS won’t engage unless you lock it up. So continue to use superior skills. It won’t impact ABS...
Until the one day you hit some unseen oil, water or sand on the road and your brake locks up. Then you’ll stay upright as ABS kicks in and saves your ****.
ABS isn’t going to increase your stopping distance if you know what your doing. It’ll act as a safety net in case you screw up...
Yes, it’s a maintenance issue, and it can fail, but so can your motor, transmission, brakes, ecm, etc. I love my FXR, but I wish it had ABS...
Until the one day you hit some unseen oil, water or sand on the road and your brake locks up. Then you’ll stay upright as ABS kicks in and saves your ****.
ABS isn’t going to increase your stopping distance if you know what your doing. It’ll act as a safety net in case you screw up...
Yes, it’s a maintenance issue, and it can fail, but so can your motor, transmission, brakes, ecm, etc. I love my FXR, but I wish it had ABS...
Last edited by Mchad; Sep 14, 2018 at 04:12 PM.
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Would be interesting to note-
How many here have engaged their ABS this year.
This month?
This week?
Every ride?
I'm talking for a bonafide need for maximum braking. Not for practice, but for a real event.
How often have any of you activated your ABS in a real situation?
How many here have engaged their ABS this year.
This month?
This week?
Every ride?
I'm talking for a bonafide need for maximum braking. Not for practice, but for a real event.
How often have any of you activated your ABS in a real situation?
For those who are against ABS its like trying to convince my 85 year old mom she needs a smart phone or computer. Good luck!
ABS isn't taking control away from you as a rider, its giving you more.
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True but it can increase your stopping distance....it provides steering control that you wouldn't otherwise have without ABS though. And we all know that by locking the front wheel we just told the bike to go down hard and bikes do exactly what we tell them to do.
Last edited by hellonewman; Sep 14, 2018 at 04:22 PM.
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Harley recently started a program because of the **** POOR design of their ABS system that (as of right now), 2011 and older models get a free fluid flush. Why, because ONLY Harley ABS systems fail in such a way that unlike normal, where you just loose the ABS feature and still have functioning brakes, when Harleys fail, the lever or pedal locks and you have ZERO braking ability from that lever or pedal.
Think I'm kidding, feel free to look threw this forum about the ABS life threatening failure and the free flush. ABS is a great thing. Harleys ABS sucks!
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Not or sure what your saying but I think we are in agreement that it’s a good thing?
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Its only going to increase your stopping distance if you lock up the brakes. And in that situation youre likely going down anyway. If you know what your doing you can release and modulate the same as w/o ABS. As soon as your wheel starts moving again ABS is not affecting your caliper pressure.
Not or sure what your saying but I think we are in agreement that its a good thing?
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