ABS VS non ABS
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From: lv
Not trying to change the subject too much but I have a quick question. Does anyone believe that ABS should be mandatory? In the red Zilla article it mentions traction control in the same breath. And if traction control is there how long till wheelie control? Both of these systems could quite easily be argued with the same points that you guys have mentioned. I for one see all these things as fairly good options but never mandatory.
Last edited by gi_king_ken; Sep 16, 2018 at 03:44 AM.
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I have one bike with ABS and one without. The one without didn't have the front brake lever lock up and cost me $1400 to replace the HCU and the ABS. Fortunately for me it happened in my driveway. Just saying.
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dumb scenario. you assume that just because someone has abs that they just 'jam' on the binders every time they stop. fact is, the only time that you even notice that you have abs, is if you make a mistake. and if you're anywhere halfway intelligent, if your abs kicks in, you'll recognize that you made a mistake and try and adjust accordingly. i won't say that nobody goes through life just jamming on the brakes and kicking in their abs every stop, but i'm sure it's actually quite a small number.
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no, i read it fine. you don't come right out and say it, but you sure do allude to it. "Of course he has no idea how to break except for to lay on the anchors!" having abs does not nullify the need to know how to properly brake, it simply keeps you in control should you make a mistake and 'over brake'.... in your hypothetical scenario, the end result of abs vs non-abs could very well be the same - bam, he's dead.... because you also assume that just because he doesn't have abs, he knows how to brake. there are plenty out there who don't, and have just gotten lucky in that they've never needed to really brake in order to avoid a collision.
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For the folks that think abs should be mandatory, what will you think when the NTSB decides everyone needs four wheels under them instead of two "for their own safety"?
Really it makes no difference to me personally unless they make it mandatory to buy one of the modern nightmares. I learned to ride on bikes with crappy drum brakes, so to me, just having modern disc brakes is like having super powers. I'll stick with non-abs and that won't change. After all legally, I still don't have to wear seatbelts in my late model truck(12,000lbs and above tags are exempt in Mo.) and my old truck doesn't even have to have them.
Really it makes no difference to me personally unless they make it mandatory to buy one of the modern nightmares. I learned to ride on bikes with crappy drum brakes, so to me, just having modern disc brakes is like having super powers. I'll stick with non-abs and that won't change. After all legally, I still don't have to wear seatbelts in my late model truck(12,000lbs and above tags are exempt in Mo.) and my old truck doesn't even have to have them.
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From: usa
The guy on the right intentionally has out Riggers on his bike and he intentionally turn the bars to do spin out . The whole video didn’t work for me so I’ll stick with non ABS brakes .
I believe what most riders need to do is learn to use the front and rear brakes all the time when rideing.This will help when you have emergency because you’re subconsciously do it without thinking about .
I believe what most riders need to do is learn to use the front and rear brakes all the time when rideing.This will help when you have emergency because you’re subconsciously do it without thinking about .
Last edited by Iron lHorse; Sep 16, 2018 at 09:05 AM.
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From: lv
no, i read it fine. you don't come right out and say it, but you sure do allude to it. "Of course he has no idea how to break except for to lay on the anchors!" having abs does not nullify the need to know how to properly brake, it simply keeps you in control should you make a mistake and 'over brake'.... in your hypothetical scenario, the end result of abs vs non-abs could very well be the same - bam, he's dead.... because you also assume that just because he doesn't have abs, he knows how to brake. there are plenty out there who don't, and have just gotten lucky in that they've never needed to really brake in order to avoid a collision.