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Old Apr 27, 2023 | 08:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Rounders
The article said to limit testing to 5 years on batteries with 20 year life.

In a cool climate like mine why damage the battery under 5 or 6 years. And then if you do it at the point where the battery is older, you will end up needing a new battery.

I just don't see the point in load testing a battery that is performing fine.

I realize at 7 years my battery might not pass a load test, but is working fine. I also realize when they hit 7 years need to start thinking about replacing.

But on these threads here when there is an electric problem first thing they do is load test, rather use any test practices or logic.

A shop might do that because they don't care about your battery, not their money and many mechanics don't understand electrical

As the article states, limit your load testing

Maybe my off road vehicles that go remote areas might be good to load test, or just replace. Though I have elected to carry jump pack. Hopefully charged.
If your battery won’t pass a load test…. Replace it. Simple.
My battery was 8 years old and my dealer load tested it for free.
I figured they would say to replace it but they said it was good. It gave me peace of mind (there is a joke in there somewhere). I got another 2 years out of it.

If you are going on a trip with an old battery (no kick start and fuel injection) is it not reassuring to know you have a good battery that was load tested?

Bottom line is if your battery can’t handle a load test it is NFG.
 
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Old Apr 27, 2023 | 09:05 PM
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If you are going on a trip with an old battery (no kick start and fuel injection) is it not reassuring to know you have a good battery that was load tested?
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If I was going on a trip I would replace.

Also I am not 100% against, I just think it is over done, rather than trouble shooting charging system. Typially you will notice a bad battery, especially if it does not live on a tender.

 
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Old Apr 27, 2023 | 11:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Rounders
If I was going on a trip I would replace.

Also I am not 100% against, I just think it is over done, rather than trouble shooting charging system. Typially you will notice a bad battery, especially if it does not live on a tender.
I think the last trip you were on you did not actually leave the farm.
Remember load testing is not the same as testing for being loaded.

Another big reason a sane person would want a healthy battery is so they don’t overwork the stator. But that is just foolishness, over done preventative maintenance.
 
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Old Apr 28, 2023 | 02:39 AM
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Originally Posted by TommyJHH
So after testing the voltage of the battery resting it seems to be at 12.2 V.
is this a bad enough reading to potentially completely not start the bike at all and simply access Accessory mode with the trip switch?
The service manual says that this reading would put it at about 40-50% so I presume the battery is done and this could explain the issues?
Anything below 12.6 volts on a battery that has been charged and allowed to sit a few hours is toast.
Go get a new battery and ride on.
 
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Old Apr 28, 2023 | 06:48 AM
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Anything below 12.6 volts on a battery that has been charged and allowed to sit a few hours is toast.
Go get a new battery and ride on.
Below 12.7 is telling you a capacity according to manuals. So at 12.6 maybe you are at 75%, if you look it up. So I would not call it toast, I have thought about installing a digital voltmeter to monitor. I installed pigtails for harness so I could read voltage with a meter, but I don't like I should. A bike will start below 12.6 though. Not toast. If you threw one out at 12.6, I suspect your batteries would not last long. Go check.
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Another big reason a sane person would want a healthy battery is so they don’t overwork the stator.
Agree. My 10 year old battery in truck which would start after sitting for 3 days in the winter, the voltmeter would not drop down to 9 vo0lts so I replaced it, Once nice diagnostic tool in a autos charging system.




I am not against testing, it is destructive, which is why they say to limit how often you do it. So people decide on the balance they want.

I have heard about stressing charging system, and thought it made sense. Though with the style from Harley is is always putting out at amps, since the engine is always turning.
 
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Old Apr 28, 2023 | 04:50 PM
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Old Apr 28, 2023 | 04:59 PM
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The Last Word will be coming along shortly.....
 
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Old Apr 28, 2023 | 05:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Rounders
The article said to limit testing to 5 years on batteries with 20 year life.

In a cool climate like mine why damage the battery under 5 or 6 years. And then if you do it at the point where the battery is older, you will end up needing a new battery.

I just don't see the point in load testing a battery that is performing fine.

I realize at 7 years my battery might not pass a load test, but is working fine. I also realize when they hit 7 years need to start thinking about replacing.

But on these threads here when there is an electric problem first thing they do is load test, rather use any test practices or logic.

A shop might do that because they don't care about your battery, not their money and many mechanics don't understand electrical

As the article states, limit your load testing

Maybe my off road vehicles that go remote areas might be good to load test, or just replace. Though I have elected to carry jump pack. Hopefully charged.
Didnt answer what it is that you have that the battery last 20 years y@Rounders
 
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Old Apr 28, 2023 | 05:36 PM
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The Last Word will be coming along shortly.....
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Old Apr 28, 2023 | 06:16 PM
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Originally Posted by M Oclaf
Didnt answer what it is that you have that the battery last 20 years y@Rounders
Read the article he put up.
 
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