Safe Riding. ( What do you do ? )
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RE: Safe Riding. ( What do you do ? )
tough crowd !!
Well here all that safety bullcrap was recently legislated. We have to wear boots, gloves, long pants, eye protection and dot helmets mandated by law. If we don't we get ticketed a minimum of $100 bucks per offense. At night, we have to wear reflective vests and the alcohol limit for motorcyclists (ONLY) has been set at .02%.
I am dying to see the new statistics on accidents to see if this bull had any effect.
I agree with some of the stuff he posted, but to each his own....nobody should preach.
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ORIGINAL: OldFenderGuy
Didn't you say 25 or so pages back that you were a consultant, or did volunteer work for ABATE, which I assume would be in Texas as you show that as your location.
Have you asked for a meeting with the ABATE organization you work with to present your concerns, and possible solutions to stem the problem?
That might possibily have more of an impact than using an internet forum as a medium, as ABATE officials can actually contact local and state officials with concerns, and possible solutions to issues that impact the motorcycle community.
You might also request to attend one of the regional COC meetings in your area of Texas to give a presentation. COC representatives include officers fromMC's, organizations, and associations within their jurisdictional area, and their attorney's work closely with ABATE and other organizations with concerns and other issues that have a negative impact for everyone on 2-wheels.
I might not agree with all your views, but that doesn't matter. But if you want to actually do something to make a difference, it's going to take more than discussion in a forum, as you need to get your ideas and solutions to organizations that can help to carry the ball forward.....
If you would like some contact information for the regional COC in your area to see ifyou could schedule time to give a presentationjust let me know and I'll see what I can do..
Didn't you say 25 or so pages back that you were a consultant, or did volunteer work for ABATE, which I assume would be in Texas as you show that as your location.
Have you asked for a meeting with the ABATE organization you work with to present your concerns, and possible solutions to stem the problem?
That might possibily have more of an impact than using an internet forum as a medium, as ABATE officials can actually contact local and state officials with concerns, and possible solutions to issues that impact the motorcycle community.
You might also request to attend one of the regional COC meetings in your area of Texas to give a presentation. COC representatives include officers fromMC's, organizations, and associations within their jurisdictional area, and their attorney's work closely with ABATE and other organizations with concerns and other issues that have a negative impact for everyone on 2-wheels.
I might not agree with all your views, but that doesn't matter. But if you want to actually do something to make a difference, it's going to take more than discussion in a forum, as you need to get your ideas and solutions to organizations that can help to carry the ball forward.....
If you would like some contact information for the regional COC in your area to see ifyou could schedule time to give a presentationjust let me know and I'll see what I can do..
My capacity with ABATE and other entities are in a statistical format. I gather information and sometimes have talks about it. I have talked to ABATE about safety issues . but as statics show. the first place with motorcyclist is driver training. A lot of accidents that happen are with driver error. To many, in the Harley world , feel safety equipment other than a helmet is being a POSER . Yet in other motorcycle communities, safety equipment is the norm.
Im not stressed out about riding my motorcycle. I have no issue with it. I have however had some accidents in my 38 years of riding. I know first hand that a good full face helmet and gloves with a armored jacket saves a lot of hurt and skin. I've had to have graffs. If you've ever experienced that before , you will know why I choose to wear safety gear.
Road Captain
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RE: Safe Riding. ( What do you do ? )
My theory is that if you prepare for a crash you are much more likely to have one. So far it has worked for me, My riding gear has always beentshirt and jeans, no helmet, or a novelty if required by law. 22 years and haven't needed that safety gear.If I bought a Goldwing (with airbag), full face helmet, super double kevlar rock block flak jacket, ejector seat (with parachute), Those teenie bopper cell phone dialing cagers would run me down within 10 miles..
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RE: Safe Riding. ( What do you do ? )
my god just shoot me now.
i do most of the things you do for safety - but i am starting to find you really obnoxious (or how ever you are supposed to spell it)
i wear a helmet always
i wear full gloves always
i wear a helmet always
i never drink and ride
etc, etc
but
my god get off your darned soap box and just drop it
i don't and won't put people down for not wearing helmets - personal choice
and all that crap about higher insurance costs - make me vomit - that type of thinking can just get pushed so far - like are fast foods good for you - nope - take em off the shelves - and the list goes on - before you start pelting us with higher insurance costs because of the way people dress and ride, talk about the lawyers suing for anything, or how about the high costs of drugs from the drug companies. you can buy drugs in other countries for a fraction of the cost here. how about the protectionism done by our doctors. if i know the medicine i need then why should i have to pay some doc 50, 75 , or 100 for an office visit to get some tylonel with codine. i work for a large medical insurance company - the prez just retired with a 50 million dollar bonus and this after earning over 6 million a year.
a couple thousand motorcycle deaths are but a small fraction of things that affect our insurance costs, because even if you crash and have some serious medical costs, it is nothing compared to the liable suits that can happen.
people preach that we need speed limits, because speed limits save lives. yeh right. fatal accidents start occurring over 12 mph, even in cages. so why don't we drop the limit down to 10, everywhere. and it has never been proved that a country expressway lowering of speed limit has ever saved lives.
statistics more than not are used to create a perception, not to quote facts.
you presented your beliefs - now back off.
i speed in a car
i do most of the things you do for safety - but i am starting to find you really obnoxious (or how ever you are supposed to spell it)
i wear a helmet always
i wear full gloves always
i wear a helmet always
i never drink and ride
etc, etc
but
my god get off your darned soap box and just drop it
i don't and won't put people down for not wearing helmets - personal choice
and all that crap about higher insurance costs - make me vomit - that type of thinking can just get pushed so far - like are fast foods good for you - nope - take em off the shelves - and the list goes on - before you start pelting us with higher insurance costs because of the way people dress and ride, talk about the lawyers suing for anything, or how about the high costs of drugs from the drug companies. you can buy drugs in other countries for a fraction of the cost here. how about the protectionism done by our doctors. if i know the medicine i need then why should i have to pay some doc 50, 75 , or 100 for an office visit to get some tylonel with codine. i work for a large medical insurance company - the prez just retired with a 50 million dollar bonus and this after earning over 6 million a year.
a couple thousand motorcycle deaths are but a small fraction of things that affect our insurance costs, because even if you crash and have some serious medical costs, it is nothing compared to the liable suits that can happen.
people preach that we need speed limits, because speed limits save lives. yeh right. fatal accidents start occurring over 12 mph, even in cages. so why don't we drop the limit down to 10, everywhere. and it has never been proved that a country expressway lowering of speed limit has ever saved lives.
statistics more than not are used to create a perception, not to quote facts.
you presented your beliefs - now back off.
i speed in a car
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IM CONFUSED , Do you not have the power to not click on this forum ? No one is making you read this thread. Where do you have the right to come here and blast away at me posting ? Are you the post ploice ? MAN ! If I don't want to read what others are posting, I just don't click.
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ORIGINAL: HarleyForeverFLHX
My capacity with ABATE and other entities are in a statistical format. I gather information and sometimes have talks about it. I have talked to ABATE about safety issues . but as statics show. the first place with motorcyclist is driver training. A lot of accidents that happen are with driver error. To many, in the Harley world , feel safety equipment other than a helmet is being a POSER . Yet in other motorcycle communities, safety equipment is the norm.
Im not stressed out about riding my motorcycle. I have no issue with it. I have however had some accidents in my 38 years of riding. I know first hand that a good full face helmet and gloves with a armored jacket saves a lot of hurt and skin. I've had to have graffs. If you've ever experienced that before , you will know why I choose to wear safety gear.
ORIGINAL: OldFenderGuy
Didn't you say 25 or so pages back that you were a consultant, or did volunteer work for ABATE, which I assume would be in Texas as you show that as your location.
Have you asked for a meeting with the ABATE organization you work with to present your concerns, and possible solutions to stem the problem?
That might possibily have more of an impact than using an internet forum as a medium, as ABATE officials can actually contact local and state officials with concerns, and possible solutions to issues that impact the motorcycle community.
You might also request to attend one of the regional COC meetings in your area of Texas to give a presentation. COC representatives include officers fromMC's, organizations, and associations within their jurisdictional area, and their attorney's work closely with ABATE and other organizations with concerns and other issues that have a negative impact for everyone on 2-wheels.
I might not agree with all your views, but that doesn't matter. But if you want to actually do something to make a difference, it's going to take more than discussion in a forum, as you need to get your ideas and solutions to organizations that can help to carry the ball forward.....
If you would like some contact information for the regional COC in your area to see ifyou could schedule time to give a presentationjust let me know and I'll see what I can do..
Didn't you say 25 or so pages back that you were a consultant, or did volunteer work for ABATE, which I assume would be in Texas as you show that as your location.
Have you asked for a meeting with the ABATE organization you work with to present your concerns, and possible solutions to stem the problem?
That might possibily have more of an impact than using an internet forum as a medium, as ABATE officials can actually contact local and state officials with concerns, and possible solutions to issues that impact the motorcycle community.
You might also request to attend one of the regional COC meetings in your area of Texas to give a presentation. COC representatives include officers fromMC's, organizations, and associations within their jurisdictional area, and their attorney's work closely with ABATE and other organizations with concerns and other issues that have a negative impact for everyone on 2-wheels.
I might not agree with all your views, but that doesn't matter. But if you want to actually do something to make a difference, it's going to take more than discussion in a forum, as you need to get your ideas and solutions to organizations that can help to carry the ball forward.....
If you would like some contact information for the regional COC in your area to see ifyou could schedule time to give a presentationjust let me know and I'll see what I can do..
My capacity with ABATE and other entities are in a statistical format. I gather information and sometimes have talks about it. I have talked to ABATE about safety issues . but as statics show. the first place with motorcyclist is driver training. A lot of accidents that happen are with driver error. To many, in the Harley world , feel safety equipment other than a helmet is being a POSER . Yet in other motorcycle communities, safety equipment is the norm.
Im not stressed out about riding my motorcycle. I have no issue with it. I have however had some accidents in my 38 years of riding. I know first hand that a good full face helmet and gloves with a armored jacket saves a lot of hurt and skin. I've had to have graffs. If you've ever experienced that before , you will know why I choose to wear safety gear.
Now... this is getting my attention..... Not sure about where or who you ride with, but most of the folks I ride with are seasoned riders. We are not bad(we think)at performing our own risk management ... thanks very much.
If you want to shake someone's tree. go after that rice rocket that pop's a wheelie @ 80+ in front of interstate traffic (Yes, I did note that he had full face and body armor).
Sorry you have had a few bad experiences... but lets not get on the soap box.
For what it's worth...
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Try bustin up a runny egg in them grits,......with salt and pepper.
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RE: Safe Riding. ( What do you do ? )
ORIGINAL: landest
Mmmmmmmmm. with sausage patties. I'm good with that..
ORIGINAL: JamieCarr
Try bustin up a runny egg in them grits,......with salt and pepper.
Try bustin up a runny egg in them grits,......with salt and pepper.