when it is your time, it is your time, if you are wearing a helmet or not.
Never riding without a full face!
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RE: Never riding without a full face!
I remember this skanky chick from high school that used to get hit in the chin with ***** a lot.
Didn't appear to do much damage, but then she wasn't much to look at anyway.[8D]
Didn't appear to do much damage, but then she wasn't much to look at anyway.[8D]
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RE: Never riding without a full face!
ORIGINAL: JBA111
kinda funny that the full faced guys are about 95% 2007 members! Im wondering if you guys are the fellers ridein arround wearing a full faced helmet and shorts and tennis shoes??
Have any of you preachers ever thought about it might be WHERE you ride that dictates the helmet you wear? Like maybe a full faced wouldn't be bad if your running 75mph on the interstate thru Chicago or Cleveland or some other big city. But if your cruseing 40 or 50 on the Ultra on backroadsinTennessee maybe a full faced is a bit of overkill! And I like my 1/2 helment when i"m cruseingmy Ultra.
Now I do wear my full face and FULL leathers when I'm ridein the Busa, but I am usually on the EDGE when Im' ridein it, and I don't mean crusein either. So full gear makes alot of sense.
Maybe ayears experience willhelp them see the light and let those that ride decide!
kinda funny that the full faced guys are about 95% 2007 members! Im wondering if you guys are the fellers ridein arround wearing a full faced helmet and shorts and tennis shoes??
Have any of you preachers ever thought about it might be WHERE you ride that dictates the helmet you wear? Like maybe a full faced wouldn't be bad if your running 75mph on the interstate thru Chicago or Cleveland or some other big city. But if your cruseing 40 or 50 on the Ultra on backroadsinTennessee maybe a full faced is a bit of overkill! And I like my 1/2 helment when i"m cruseingmy Ultra.
Now I do wear my full face and FULL leathers when I'm ridein the Busa, but I am usually on the EDGE when Im' ridein it, and I don't mean crusein either. So full gear makes alot of sense.
Maybe ayears experience willhelp them see the light and let those that ride decide!
However, I agree with your statement on the where you ride (and when...summer, winter, etc) AND how old you are and whether you've had an accident or not, dictates what type of gear you wear (for most of us). In 1972, I lost an argument with a cager. Flew about 10 feet, landed on my helmet, walked away from it. Winter months I wear my full face. Warmer weather I wear my 3/4 or 1/2 helmet. Freeway, I like to wear my full face, but if I use my windshield, I wear my 3/4 or 1/2. No option in Virginia to not wear a helmet.
My only thing is if you have to wear a helmet, wear something that at least might do something for you...but....to each his own....
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RE: Never riding without a full face!
Full face helmets are not the safest thing to put on your head. Too many people have a false since of security with them things.
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RE: Never riding without a full face!
ORIGINAL: Yellotang
Full face helmets are not the safest thing to put on your head. Too many people have a false since of security with them things.
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Full face helmets are not the safest thing to put on your head. Too many people have a false since of security with them things.
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make you snap your neck, so you die anyway and vice versa.
Lot's of "studies" have been out over my lifetime by lots of people who are a lot smarter than meto support their particular argument (for or against).
Wearing a helmet or not, wearing a half helmet or full face helmet or beanie or DOT, SNELL or non-DOT helmet may or may not save your life. There are many, many variables that can be taken into account as to whether they are effective for that crash or not. How you hit, speed, how you land, what you hit, etc are some of the numerous variables that affect whether you die or walk away or are crippled for life.
Over my 38 years of riding a few hundred thousand miles, the best protection is not your gear but to not get into an accident to begin with (duh). Drive defensively, assume no one ever sees you, drive for the conditions and your skill level. However, I am also of the belief that you should be prepared for the worst and dress accordingly for how, when and where you ride.
That's my opinion and everyone is absolutely entitled to their own opinion (I will NEVER actually say someone is wrong in their belief as all it ever does is impose my opinons and beliefs on others and that's wrong unless you are my kid....)....
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RE: Never riding without a full face!
ORIGINAL: subguy
I think the problem really is not what type of helmet or personal protection equipment you wear, it's how you ride. I've had 10 close friends die in my lifetime of ridng. Seven were wearing no helmets, the other three had helmets. I've heard the argument that wearing a helmet may protect your head, but
make you snap your neck, so you die anyway and vice versa.
Lot's of "studies" have been out over my lifetime by lots of people who are a lot smarter than meto support their particular argument (for or against).
Wearing a helmet or not, wearing a half helmet or full face helmet or beanie or DOT, SNELL or non-DOT helmet may or may not save your life. There are many, many variables that can be taken into account as to whether they are effective for that crash or not. How you hit, speed, how you land, what you hit, etc are some of the numerous variables that affect whether you die or walk away or are crippled for life.
Over my 38 years of riding a few hundred thousand miles, the best protection is not your gear but to not get into an accident to begin with (duh). Drive defensively, assume no one ever sees you, drive for the conditions and your skill level. However, I am also of the belief that you should be prepared for the worst and dress accordingly for how, when and where you ride.
That's my opinion and everyone is absolutely entitled to their own opinion (I will NEVER actually say someone is wrong in their belief as all it ever does is impose my opinons and beliefs on others and that's wrong unless you are my kid....)....
ORIGINAL: Yellotang
Full face helmets are not the safest thing to put on your head. Too many people have a false since of security with them things.
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Full face helmets are not the safest thing to put on your head. Too many people have a false since of security with them things.
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make you snap your neck, so you die anyway and vice versa.
Lot's of "studies" have been out over my lifetime by lots of people who are a lot smarter than meto support their particular argument (for or against).
Wearing a helmet or not, wearing a half helmet or full face helmet or beanie or DOT, SNELL or non-DOT helmet may or may not save your life. There are many, many variables that can be taken into account as to whether they are effective for that crash or not. How you hit, speed, how you land, what you hit, etc are some of the numerous variables that affect whether you die or walk away or are crippled for life.
Over my 38 years of riding a few hundred thousand miles, the best protection is not your gear but to not get into an accident to begin with (duh). Drive defensively, assume no one ever sees you, drive for the conditions and your skill level. However, I am also of the belief that you should be prepared for the worst and dress accordingly for how, when and where you ride.
That's my opinion and everyone is absolutely entitled to their own opinion (I will NEVER actually say someone is wrong in their belief as all it ever does is impose my opinons and beliefs on others and that's wrong unless you are my kid....)....
I truly believe that everyone should practice safe motorcycle riding practices. Also support the idea of cash incentives/discounts for taking motorcycle safety courses.
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man,...I rode yesterday afternoon,....and wouldn't ya know it,...I left some of my face at home.
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I wear a half shell when I ride to work every day (53 miles each direction) to Los Angeles, depending on the time I leave there is ZERO traffic or tons of traffic. One thing I think about when there is zero traffic and its early morning with some fog or even drizzle at 40 degrees is wow maybe Ill buy a full face helmet for days like this because the balaclava is warm but could be a little warmer (shrugs). When I am riding in traffic cutting lanes and watching every moron who darts over the double yellow line into the carpool lane and back in front of me I am thankful I am only wearing a half helmet. Wanna know why I like the lesser helmet in bad conditions (combat riding, I call it because it feels like me against the world at this point), because my field of view is better, I can hear better. Ive rode crotch rockets for years and always wore a full helmet then so I know what they feel like. Rode my softail pictured below for a couple years in the conditions I described as well as leisurly rides around the backroads and now I am on a touring bike because of the miles I put on. I dont care what you wear, each prediciment dictates just as long as some knucklehead doesnt stand up and say hey ZJ, you need to wear what I tell you because I said my idea is better for no better reason then I want to tell people what to do. Which is one of the worst trends in this country lately, that and political correctness, if your easily offended grow a backbone and stand up for yourself or stfu. What ever happened to "Dont tread on me" its now "omg you hurt my feelings, LAWSUIT so everyone apologizes." To each their own.