General Harley Davidson Chat Forum to discuss general Harley Davidson issues, topics, and experiences.
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by:

Got pulled over riding today...

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old May 2, 2011 | 04:25 PM
  #41  
phknsic's Avatar
phknsic
Thread Starter
|
Advanced
Joined: Jul 2010
Posts: 93
Likes: 0
From: Bay Area, CA
Default

Originally Posted by petom
It usually works like this:

Judge: "What was the posted speed limit?"
You: "65 MPH, Your Honor."
Judge: "What was your speed?"
You: "80 MPH, Your Honor."
Judge: "GUILTY. Pay the clerk on the way out. Good Day. Next case?"

Unless you have a good argument for question 2 there's not much you can do. The judge might let you go to traffic school even if it's been less than 18 months since your last. In my experience the insurance increase for the next few years is a lot more than the fine itself.

Do you actually think someone with half a brain in their head is going to stand in front of the judge, in an attempt to fight a speed violation and flat out say they were doing 80 in a 65?????????? why even waste your time if you're going to do that, just pay it via mail and eat the point.

Every one of you guys that said man up, don't do the crime if you can't do the time must be ultra wealthy and **** money to take the insurance hike from the DMV point, and traffic ticket fines.

I'm sure you all pegged me as someone who has tons of tickets, but in reality I've maybe had 5 or 6 tickets total in 20 years of dirving. Every one of you has, does, and will break the law, and when you do and get caught you'll probably be looking for the same angle on how to minimize the impact to your wallet and record so all you self ritchous wannabe law obeyers can KMA.

I came looking for suggestions on how to beat it, not lectures from holy angels that have fallen out of the popes ***.
 
Old May 2, 2011 | 04:26 PM
  #42  
phknsic's Avatar
phknsic
Thread Starter
|
Advanced
Joined: Jul 2010
Posts: 93
Likes: 0
From: Bay Area, CA
Default

Originally Posted by TwiZted Biker
She catch you going over the hill on 280 out of the bay toward Ptown ? that's the stretch were they put in that new booth less toll road system on . CHP are so bad I take the Canyon to avoid it anymore traffic or not .

Nah, NB880 in San Lorenzo area
 
Old May 2, 2011 | 04:32 PM
  #43  
TwiZted Biker's Avatar
TwiZted Biker
Club Member
15 Year Member
Loved
Community Favorite
Top Answer: 10
Joined: Mar 2009
Posts: 66,128
Likes: 51,461
From: Niles Canyon Ca.
Default

Originally Posted by phknsic
Nah, NB880 in San Lorenzo area

Up where the commuter lane squeezes back into traffic again ? they hunt that stretch hard also . Love that clusterfuc for an interchange there .
 
Old May 2, 2011 | 05:07 PM
  #44  
jimmers1817's Avatar
jimmers1817
Ultimate HDF Member
Joined: Nov 2007
Posts: 6,975
Likes: 12
From: NJ
Default

That will likely be considered a harmless error and the court will allow her to amend the location. If you have the time to sit in court go ahead and fight it. Couple of things to consider though: Speeding tickets probably have about a 95% conviction rate and if you go to court you give the judge an opportunity to give you more than the minimum fine plus court cost.
 
Old May 2, 2011 | 05:46 PM
  #45  
petom's Avatar
petom
Stellar HDF Member
15 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
Joined: Dec 2009
Posts: 2,747
Likes: 1,078
From: N/A
Default

Originally Posted by phknsic
Do you actually think someone with half a brain in their head is going to stand in front of the judge, in an attempt to fight a speed violation and flat out say they were doing 80 in a 65?????????? why even waste your time if you're going to do that, just pay it via mail and eat the point.

Every one of you guys that said man up, don't do the crime if you can't do the time must be ultra wealthy and **** money to take the insurance hike from the DMV point, and traffic ticket fines.

I'm sure you all pegged me as someone who has tons of tickets, but in reality I've maybe had 5 or 6 tickets total in 20 years of dirving. Every one of you has, does, and will break the law, and when you do and get caught you'll probably be looking for the same angle on how to minimize the impact to your wallet and record so all you self ritchous wannabe law obeyers can KMA.

I came looking for suggestions on how to beat it, not lectures from holy angels that have fallen out of the popes ***.

No, actually I'm just saying you'll have to prove that the officer's estimate of your speed is in error. My smartass "courtroom conversation" with the judge was just that- a smartass comment. Sorry, but I'm like that. Actually your strategy of extension, TBD, extension, court date, etc. is the best way to lighten the hit on your bank balance. And yes, the judge could raise the fine, but the last time I went this route he not only lowered it but allowed me to do traffic school even though it was within the 18 month limit.

It seems that yes, I do break the law on occasion.
 
Old May 2, 2011 | 08:27 PM
  #46  
micahpop's Avatar
micahpop
Road Warrior
Joined: Jun 2009
Posts: 1,909
Likes: 4
From: Kalifornia
Default

Originally Posted by hdgzr
Ain't nobody's "granny" Mr. Badass Biker; blow me.
Sheesh, hit a nerve, did I? Didn't you notice the friendly toothy smiley? Or maybe you didn't have your bi-focals on...

Lighten up, good sir. It was meant to be funny - not a personal attack.
 
Old May 2, 2011 | 08:33 PM
  #47  
Unome's Avatar
Unome
Ultimate HDF Member
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 8,423
Likes: 2
From: Ellenwood, GA - The Ghetto Part
Default

Originally Posted by phknsic
Oh I know this... I'm not trying to get killed out there going the Speed limit, BUT however, going one mile over is breaking the law I know that much. So officers, courts, don't care what flow you were going with if you were speeding you were speeding, safety issue or not.

Just gonna have to see how it plays out.
I know plenty of people who have gotten speeding tickets in the past and the "just going with the flow of traffic" has never been accepted as a defense in court.

And trying to debate why you were pulled over instead of anyone else going the same speed limit as you is like when you go fishing, do you catch all of the fish?
 
Old May 2, 2011 | 08:48 PM
  #48  
cotnballs's Avatar
cotnballs
Road Captain
Joined: Jul 2009
Posts: 586
Likes: 1
From: Falcon, CO
Default

Go to court and see what happens. Even if the ticket had the wrong location on it the judge can give the officer a chance to re-issue the ticket. Hope the officer doesn't remember you and the circumstance of the ticket. This kind of happen to me but not in Cali. The officer writes a brief who, what, when and where on the back of the ticket and uses this is court when they give their testimony (they use a different word for it but can't remember it). Well in my case the officer wrote the info from the next ticket he wrote instead on mine on the back of it so it did not match what was on the front of the ticket. A female officer pulled up behind him as I left from getting the ticket so he BS instead of writing the info on back of the ticket and probably didn't remember till later that shift. The court date for my ticket was about 6 to 8 months after I got it and he already forgot what happened becuase like he told the judge in court he wrote a lot of tickets that day. The officer was a total **** and I think I had karma on my side that day. He never re-issued the ticket. Good luck and go to court.
 
HD Forum Stories

The Best of Harley-Davidson for Lifelong Riders

story-0

7 Times Harley-Davidson Chucked Tradition Out the Window

 Verdad Gallardo
story-1

7 Surprising Harley-Davidson Products that Are Not Motorcycles

 Verdad Gallardo
story-2

8 Best Harley-Davidson Motorcycles Ever

 Pouria Savadkouei
story-3

10 Worst Harley-Davidson Motorcycles Ever

 Pouria Savadkouei
story-4

Killer Custom's Jail Break Is The Breakout That Refused to Blend In

 Verdad Gallardo
story-5

Crazy Bunderbike Build Looks Amazing, But Is It Impossible to Ride?

 Verdad Gallardo
story-6

Harley-Davidson Reveals Super Cool Cafe Racer Concept

 Verdad Gallardo
story-7

Engraved Rebellion: Inside Bundnerbike's Glam Rock II

 Verdad Gallardo
story-8

10 Motorcycles You Should Never Buy

 Joe Kucinski
story-9

10 Things Harley-Davidson Needs to Fix in 2026

 Verdad Gallardo
Old May 2, 2011 | 08:55 PM
  #49  
TwiZted Biker's Avatar
TwiZted Biker
Club Member
15 Year Member
Loved
Community Favorite
Top Answer: 10
Joined: Mar 2009
Posts: 66,128
Likes: 51,461
From: Niles Canyon Ca.
Default

Life out here in Cali. particularly the bay area is a bit different from the areas I see all the arguing comments coming from . Here you've got better than a 50% chance of having a ticket dropped because of a cop being a no show in court , add to the fact they screwed the pooch on the paperwork facts the odds increase in your favor and lastly depending on the time of day the man can look the judge in the face state flatly there is no way he could have been going that fast unless god parted traffic like Moses did the Red Sea . It's an odds game in your favor to fight it because of the point system and insurance headaches they put us through . Worse case buddy you get a weekend of traffic school to keep it off your record , I hear you can do it on-line line now . Costs some bucks but ...................
 

Last edited by TwiZted Biker; May 2, 2011 at 11:22 PM.
Old May 2, 2011 | 09:24 PM
  #50  
jbg56's Avatar
jbg56
Cruiser
Joined: Mar 2011
Posts: 180
Likes: 1
From: Roscoe NY, Trouttown USA!
Default

I get a kick out of a guy complaining because he got a ticket for going 82 in a 65. A couple miles down the road from me is a 30 mph speed zone, and the state troopers are known to give out tickets if you do 31. And the local judge won't give you a break.
 



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 05:27 PM.

story-0
7 Times Harley-Davidson Chucked Tradition Out the Window

Slideshow: Harley-Davidson built its reputation on nostalgia, but every so often, the company took a hard left turn into the future.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-20 11:18:19


VIEW MORE
story-1
7 Surprising Harley-Davidson Products that Are Not Motorcycles

Slideshow: The bar-and-shield logo shows up on far more than motorcycles, some of the company's most unexpected products have nothing to do with riding.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-04-29 16:50:35


VIEW MORE
story-2
8 Best Harley-Davidson Motorcycles Ever

Slideshow: Not every Harley gets it right, but these are the ones that genuinely earned their reputation.

By Pouria Savadkouei | 2026-04-15 14:23:21


VIEW MORE
story-3
10 Worst Harley-Davidson Motorcycles Ever

Slideshow: From the troubled AMF years to modern misfires, these bikes earned reputations for reliability issues, questionable engineering, or disappointing performance.

By Pouria Savadkouei | 2026-04-01 20:01:09


VIEW MORE
story-4
Killer Custom's Jail Break Is The Breakout That Refused to Blend In

Slideshow: Killer Custom's "Jail Breaker" build focuses more on stance and visual aggression than mechanical overhaul.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-03-18 19:20:32


VIEW MORE
story-5
Crazy Bunderbike Build Looks Amazing, But Is It Impossible to Ride?

Slideshow: The Swiss custom shop has taken a Harley Softail and stretched it into something so long and low that it looks closer to a rolling sculpture than a conventional motorcycle.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-03-07 16:15:30


VIEW MORE
story-6
Harley-Davidson Reveals Super Cool Cafe Racer Concept

Slideshow: Harley-Davidson's new RMCR concept revives the café racer formula with modern hardware-and it may be exactly the reset the company needs.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-03-04 12:23:37


VIEW MORE
story-7
Engraved Rebellion: Inside Bundnerbike's Glam Rock II

Slideshow: A standard cruiser becomes an intricate metal canvas in the hands of a Swiss custom house known for pushing Harley-Davidson platforms far beyond their factory brief.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-02-24 18:19:44


VIEW MORE
story-8
10 Motorcycles You Should Never Buy

Slideshow: There is no shortage of great motorcycles to buy, but we would avoid these ten.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-02-19 14:50:51


VIEW MORE
story-9
10 Things Harley-Davidson Needs to Fix in 2026

Slideshow: Harley-Davidson's challenges aren't abstract; they show up in dropping shipments, shrinking dealer traffic, and strategic decisions that aren't yet translating into growth.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-01-13 18:33:17


VIEW MORE