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Judge: "What was the posted speed limit?"
You: "65 MPH, Your Honor."
Judge: "What was your speed?"
You: "80 MPH, Your Honor."
Judge: "GUILTY. Pay the clerk on the way out. Good Day. Next case?"
Unless you have a good argument for question 2 there's not much you can do. The judge might let you go to traffic school even if it's been less than 18 months since your last. In my experience the insurance increase for the next few years is a lot more than the fine itself.
Do you actually think someone with half a brain in their head is going to stand in front of the judge, in an attempt to fight a speed violation and flat out say they were doing 80 in a 65?????????? why even waste your time if you're going to do that, just pay it via mail and eat the point.
Every one of you guys that said man up, don't do the crime if you can't do the time must be ultra wealthy and **** money to take the insurance hike from the DMV point, and traffic ticket fines.
I'm sure you all pegged me as someone who has tons of tickets, but in reality I've maybe had 5 or 6 tickets total in 20 years of dirving. Every one of you has, does, and will break the law, and when you do and get caught you'll probably be looking for the same angle on how to minimize the impact to your wallet and record so all you self ritchous wannabe law obeyers can KMA.
I came looking for suggestions on how to beat it, not lectures from holy angels that have fallen out of the popes ***.
She catch you going over the hill on 280 out of the bay toward Ptown ? that's the stretch were they put in that new booth less toll road system on . CHP are so bad I take the Canyon to avoid it anymore traffic or not .
That will likely be considered a harmless error and the court will allow her to amend the location. If you have the time to sit in court go ahead and fight it. Couple of things to consider though: Speeding tickets probably have about a 95% conviction rate and if you go to court you give the judge an opportunity to give you more than the minimum fine plus court cost.
Do you actually think someone with half a brain in their head is going to stand in front of the judge, in an attempt to fight a speed violation and flat out say they were doing 80 in a 65?????????? why even waste your time if you're going to do that, just pay it via mail and eat the point.
Every one of you guys that said man up, don't do the crime if you can't do the time must be ultra wealthy and **** money to take the insurance hike from the DMV point, and traffic ticket fines.
I'm sure you all pegged me as someone who has tons of tickets, but in reality I've maybe had 5 or 6 tickets total in 20 years of dirving. Every one of you has, does, and will break the law, and when you do and get caught you'll probably be looking for the same angle on how to minimize the impact to your wallet and record so all you self ritchous wannabe law obeyers can KMA.
I came looking for suggestions on how to beat it, not lectures from holy angels that have fallen out of the popes ***.
No, actually I'm just saying you'll have to prove that the officer's estimate of your speed is in error. My smartass "courtroom conversation" with the judge was just that- a smartass comment. Sorry, but I'm like that. Actually your strategy of extension, TBD, extension, court date, etc. is the best way to lighten the hit on your bank balance. And yes, the judge could raise the fine, but the last time I went this route he not only lowered it but allowed me to do traffic school even though it was within the 18 month limit.
It seems that yes, I do break the law on occasion.
Oh I know this... I'm not trying to get killed out there going the Speed limit, BUT however, going one mile over is breaking the law I know that much. So officers, courts, don't care what flow you were going with if you were speeding you were speeding, safety issue or not.
Just gonna have to see how it plays out.
I know plenty of people who have gotten speeding tickets in the past and the "just going with the flow of traffic" has never been accepted as a defense in court.
And trying to debate why you were pulled over instead of anyone else going the same speed limit as you is like when you go fishing, do you catch all of the fish?
Go to court and see what happens. Even if the ticket had the wrong location on it the judge can give the officer a chance to re-issue the ticket. Hope the officer doesn't remember you and the circumstance of the ticket. This kind of happen to me but not in Cali. The officer writes a brief who, what, when and where on the back of the ticket and uses this is court when they give their testimony (they use a different word for it but can't remember it). Well in my case the officer wrote the info from the next ticket he wrote instead on mine on the back of it so it did not match what was on the front of the ticket. A female officer pulled up behind him as I left from getting the ticket so he BS instead of writing the info on back of the ticket and probably didn't remember till later that shift. The court date for my ticket was about 6 to 8 months after I got it and he already forgot what happened becuase like he told the judge in court he wrote a lot of tickets that day. The officer was a total **** and I think I had karma on my side that day. He never re-issued the ticket. Good luck and go to court.
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Life out here in Cali. particularly the bay area is a bit different from the areas I see all the arguing comments coming from . Here you've got better than a 50% chance of having a ticket dropped because of a cop being a no show in court , add to the fact they screwed the pooch on the paperwork facts the odds increase in your favor and lastly depending on the time of day the man can look the judge in the face state flatly there is no way he could have been going that fast unless god parted traffic like Moses did the Red Sea . It's an odds game in your favor to fight it because of the point system and insurance headaches they put us through . Worse case buddy you get a weekend of traffic school to keep it off your record , I hear you can do it on-line line now . Costs some bucks but ...................
Last edited by TwiZted Biker; May 2, 2011 at 11:22 PM.
I get a kick out of a guy complaining because he got a ticket for going 82 in a 65. A couple miles down the road from me is a 30 mph speed zone, and the state troopers are known to give out tickets if you do 31. And the local judge won't give you a break.
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