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I have not had my bike long enough to feel the need to speed. I also don't live in Cali and if I was on a freeway there I most certainly would go with the flow of traffic as OP did.
However, my car has two speeds: on and off. I am currently replacing the turbo in my subaru after killing the first one.
I speed on the highways all the time. I used to speed on secondary roads when I was younger and stupider. I have been pulled over MANY times for speeding (not in the last 5 years -- knock on wood).
EVERY time I have been pulled over (save one, when I actually wasn't speeding and was able to prove it using the magical R * D = T formula and a Google satellite map) for speeding the officer has asked me basically the same question:
"Do you know why I pulled you over?"
And EVERY time (except for that one time) I have answered:
"I assume it was because I was driving above the speed limit."
In 90% of the cases you can see the LEO start to speak and then stop and ask "what's that?" Apparently so few people actually tell the truth that it sort of short-circuits something in their thinking.
I have gotten MANY verbal and a couple of written warnings. I have received a few tickets, but in every case (except that one) I deserved them.
One time I was driving my STi (subaru rocket car) and saw the LEO. Was going 55 in a 35 zone (this one made me re-think speeding on secondary roads) and hit the ample 12" 4 piston brembo brakes. The brakes were still a little cold and made a loud groaning noise just as I was passing him (he was on a side road). He pulled me over and sarcastically asked me if my brakes were OK. I sheepishly said that they actually worked really well and that I had got on them pretty hard when I saw him. He checked my papers and told me to have a nice day and keep an eye on those brakes...
I figure you know when you get pulled over if you were speeding or not. If you were then you deserve a ticket, you broke the law. But by standing out from the crowd and not giving some bullshit story that they have heard 12,000 times before, you stand a decent chance of getting a break.
At least that's my experience.
And saying that people who man up and pay their tickets must be rich or something is bullshit. If you can't afford to pay then don't play.
It's not that we don't speed or never bend the rules
but after a few years of going through what you seem to be going through, one comes to the realization that speeding is just like playing the lotto. Sometimes you win but mostly you lose.
Last edited by Watch Guy; May 3, 2011 at 03:08 AM.
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Having the mindset of going with the flow of traffic is understandable; I commute into the city daily, I get it. But I also notice when the LEO gets one or two out of the "flow of traffic", generally the pack slows down to around the posted speed limit.
That pack is back up to 80 before the LEO is out of their review mirror.
I just don't know how a LEO can justify pulling one vehicle over out of a pack of hundreds going 15 over the speed limit. There had to be someone going 30 over she just popped an easy one to look good at the end of the day. Now catch 2 or 3 going 90-100 MPH in a 65 and at the end of the day you got my respect. She just shot into the pack of ducks for an easy kill
It seems like there is a better way to slow the pack down than putting the LEO's life, and worse yet a civilians life, in danger by making them sit along the edge of a freeway where hundreds of cars are going by at 80 miles an hour to give one lone person out of hundreds doing the same thing a ticket.
....mental note to self: Stay away from Roscoe, NY!
Nah, just do the speed limit, you'll be fine. The area I posted about is about a 2 mile stretch of Rt. 206, straight as an arrow most of the way, and it is real hard not to speed. But it is also a residential section, and the citiots who come up on weekends think they can drive through it at any speed they want. They do help keep taxes down. On a good Saturday or Sunday afternoon it is not uncommon for 20 speeding tickets to be written there.
I usually ride around the speed limit, but keep it at most about 10 over.
But I also know the Leo's around here give usually 15 over, but weaving, wondering over the lines, etc will get U stopped in a hurry.
Our roads can still have a lot of sand on them in areas in the spring from winter snow treatment and are not safe to ride too fast in April - May till they get cleared off.
In the City of Colorado Springs (Denver also) if you go to court for your ticket the first thing they do is hand out a plea bargain with your complete driving record on it and a non-moving violation plea bargain with the same fine as the original offense. City council took away the judges ability to reduce fines but they can reduce points. Its 125 for red light and stop sign violations and 10 for every mile over the speed limit (doubled for school and constructions zones) plus about 40 bucks in fees. I'm sorry but in this day and age, tickets are revenue generation devices for the general fund! We just got red light cameras and speed cameras are on the way! If you have the time and the ability to go to court knowing you will get a plea bargain you are dumb not to!
Last edited by cotnballs; May 3, 2011 at 01:54 PM.
Sheesh, hit a nerve, did I? Didn't you notice the friendly toothy smiley? Or maybe you didn't have your bi-focals on...
Lighten up, good sir. It was meant to be funny - not a personal attack.
That's the risk you take on an internet site sometimes trying to being funny, or stating your opinion can rub people the wrong way; You have to take all replies with a grain of salt and that most people on this site are trying to be helpful, but sometimes that's not what you want to hear. If you want to see an attack go to Carb vs. EFI and see how many times I've be quoted. I should have went with the group instead of stating my opinion... Like its not the first time this has happened to others on this site, the next thing you know they will be calling me a RUB, Poster, or troll on that thread.
Obeying the speed limit vs. going with the flow is a no brainer. Wife and I were on the "racetrack" between Denver and Cheyenne going the speed limit. Anyone that has driven that stretch of road knows that you either pick up the pace or ride in the fields on the side of the road with the tractors and hay wagons. Rolling hills caused the semi that was cruising to overtake me in such a fashion that it scared the **** out of both of us. No more obeying the speed limit for me on roads like that. Tickets can be taken to court, Body bags go to the lower level of the hospital.
Good Luck
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It seems like there is a better way to slow the pack down than putting the LEO's life, and worse yet a civilians life, in danger by making them sit along the edge of a freeway where hundreds of cars are going by at 80 miles an hour to give one lone person out of hundreds doing the same thing a ticket.
Was surprised to see this thread still going.
Out here on the best coast the CHP seldom if ever sit on the side of the highway. Secondary roads sometimes. What they do is sit on the on ramp and shoot laser down the road then they pull em over.
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