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Old Jul 28, 2014 | 11:55 AM
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Shovels, Knucks, Pans....I love the sound of them all and I'll even throw in an honorable mention for a good running Ironhead....pretty snotty!!
 
Old Jul 28, 2014 | 12:15 PM
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You should buy this very nice carbureted 2001 Superglide I have for sale. She will do her best to talk potato with ya.





$5900 and she's yours!


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Old Jul 28, 2014 | 12:23 PM
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Originally Posted by LiiT
You should buy this very nice carbureted 2001 Superglide I have for sale. She will do her best to talk potato with ya.





$5900 and she's yours!


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That's a nice clean bike. The price seems very fair as well. Good luck!
 
Old Jul 28, 2014 | 12:47 PM
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Yep, Shovels were the last of the blatant patato patato bikes. Though if you idle any HD motor down it will potato due to both rods being tied to the same journal.
And don't you guys know potatoe is spelled with an "e"?
 
Old Jul 28, 2014 | 01:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Bestrafen
If you don't want to go too far back in time, get a twin cam with a carb.
Here's my Heritage with a carb.

Heritage softail with vance & hines no baffles - YouTube
Beautiful sounding twin cam.

I'm not sure I buy into the slow idle issues on them, but I'm willing to read if someone has some examples of where it's actually caused an issue.

I kept my 88" FLHRCI at around 800RPM for years nary an issue. Even the Screaming Eagle tuner would allow you to take it down to 600RPM I think. I don't believe the roller bearing bottom end requires but a few pounds of pressure to be happy.

I always believed it was more EPA related. It's easier to not have misfires pulling your scores down with a faster idle.
 
Old Jul 28, 2014 | 10:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Cattle-Dog
Beautiful sounding twin cam.

I'm not sure I buy into the slow idle issues on them, but I'm willing to read if someone has some examples of where it's actually caused an issue.

I kept my 88" FLHRCI at around 800RPM for years nary an issue. Even the Screaming Eagle tuner would allow you to take it down to 600RPM I think. I don't believe the roller bearing bottom end requires but a few pounds of pressure to be happy.

I always believed it was more EPA related. It's easier to not have misfires pulling your scores down with a faster idle.
I've got a bucket full of trashed rod sets says you should believe it, your bike your money............ Isn't the oil pressure it's the bearing in the rods, too low an RPM the bearings will slide over the crankpin surface instead of rolling on it. Eventually the race & crankpin surfaces start cratering out.
 

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Old Jul 29, 2014 | 12:18 AM
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Not to be rude, but that is yet another one I have never heard of or seen.

Seems like we got:
- Starves the top end for oil
- Starves the bottom end for oil
- Jacks up the crankshaft
- Causes dead batteries
- And now, roller bearings don't like to spin at slow speeds and I assume slow is less than 900 RPM

And still no one has come on here, that I've noticed admittedly, and said I lowered my idle and trashed my engine. There's either no story, or I knew a guy, etc. Even trashed bearings I wonder how it was determined if idle speed was the culprit. Plenty of failed bearings on relatively stock bikes, particularly in the post timken days.

I do thank you for your post Twizted regardless.
 
Old Jul 29, 2014 | 12:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Cattle-Dog
Not to be rude, but that is yet another one I have never heard of or seen.

Seems like we got:
- Starves the top end for oil
- Starves the bottom end for oil
- Jacks up the crankshaft
- Causes dead batteries
- And now, roller bearings don't like to spin at slow speeds and I assume slow is less than 900 RPM

And still no one has come on here, that I've noticed admittedly, and said I lowered my idle and trashed my engine. There's either no story, or I knew a guy, etc. Even trashed bearings I wonder how it was determined if idle speed was the culprit. Plenty of failed bearings on relatively stock bikes, particularly in the post timken days.

I do thank you for your post Twizted regardless.
Your call what you believe or don't ,info's out there do some digging outside the forums you'll find plenty to make your own judgement with. Idle speed CONTRIBUTES with other factors to cause a problem, isn't the sole culprit.
 
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Old Jul 29, 2014 | 03:48 AM
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my friend rode a pan head and it was the best sounding bike i have ever heard
i dont know enough about why, all i know is it sounded like nothn else
 
Old Jul 29, 2014 | 05:06 AM
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Originally Posted by TwiZted Biker
I've got a bucket full of trashed rod sets says you should believe it, your bike your money............ Isn't the oil pressure it's the bearing in the rods, too low an RPM the bearings will slide over the crankpin surface instead of rolling on it. Eventually the race & crankpin surfaces start cratering out.
Wouldn't you lean towards "too thin of an oil" in those situations? I'm having a hard time envisioning a low revolution being the cause of slip 'n slide on a bearing instead of rolling.
 



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