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Old Feb 2, 2020 | 01:06 PM
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Ion Gun? ... Isn't that what Flash Gordon used?
 
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Old Feb 2, 2020 | 01:17 PM
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And the mountain cowboy!
 
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Old Feb 2, 2020 | 03:20 PM
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Originally Posted by eaglefan1
Waste my money?? I guess the whole detailing industry is fooled because they should be using pledge. Guys that do it for a living, car shows people, guys with million dollar builds. All of them should use pledge. Go to your local detail shop, not a car wash and tell them, tell all of their customers. Hell you should do it for a living, the whole world doesn't know what you know
For the love of God.
Whatever man. You sure you didn't eat lead paint at one time in your life? Like you said, use what you want

I worked 2 doors down from a "detailer" for 5 years. His job was to pry money out of your pocket and to over charge you for doing something that you're to fkn lazy to do yourself. I was in the 12volt/automotive industry for 30 years, did shows for 5 of them, and there aint no magic to cleaning and polishing painted metal and there's a LOT of things that work to do it. What gets used in the "real" world behind the scenes to make you go OOOOOOH and AAAHHHH when you look at it, would surprise you

[QUOTE=eaglefan1;18845931]You sure you didn't eat lead paint at one time in your life? {QUOTE}

shows your class,,,,,,"Agree with me or I will attack you" what a pos.
 
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Old Feb 2, 2020 | 03:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Uncle Larry
Ion Gun? ... Isn't that what Flash Gordon used?

it was invented in the 60's to get rid of static (dust) on vinyl records so that there was less white noise and clicks and pops when played. It can eliminate static on anything it's "shot" at, thus dust isn't attracted or "repelled" via a charge from the gun.

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And the mountain cowboy!

But ya'll just keep opening ur mouth and showin just how smart you are!
 
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Old Feb 2, 2020 | 03:40 PM
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[QUOTE=Mountainkowboy;18846277]I worked 2 doors down from a "detailer" for 5 years. His job was to pry money out of your pocket and to over charge you for doing something that you're to fkn lazy to do yourself. I was in the 12volt/automotive industry for 30 years, did shows for 5 of them, and there aint no magic to cleaning and polishing painted metal and there's a LOT of things that work to do it. What gets used in the "real" world behind the scenes to make you go OOOOOOH and AAAHHHH when you look at it, would surprise you

Originally Posted by eaglefan1
You sure you didn't eat lead paint at one time in your life? {QUOTE}

shows your class,,,,,,"Agree with me or I will attack you" what a pos.
Your right there is no magic to detailing it takes time, effort, equipment, technique, skill. Im sure you have done full paint correction on vehicles from super hard Audi paint to super soft Suburu paint. You know what works for them and everything in between. The science behind abrasives.The difference between the abrasives and when to use them.

Real world is not behind the scenes Im sorry. Real world is vehicles used everyday that people spend a ton of money to buy them and want to maintain them. That is the real world. People used to put brake fluid on tires to make them shine for shows and pictures, same deal.
Anybody can slap some stuff on the paint and take a picture of it and make it look good. 50/50 shots tell the difference.
Here is a 50/50 shot. Compounded only on the right side. Pledge isn't going to fix that. Time, effort, technique, skill and equipment is what fixes it. What do you think the owner would have said if I would have just sprayed some pledge on the paint and rubbed it? Detailing is not waxing, or just waxing, or just spraying something on the paint and calling it good.
Call me whatever you want, Ive been called way worse man. One thing nobody has ever said after I gave their vehicle back is "It looks terrible" or "Did you use pledge".
Use whatever you want, is the only statement you have said that has any merit or help to anyone

 
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Old Feb 2, 2020 | 07:43 PM
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^^^^^hahahaha you must be a detailer.........

and knowone said anything about fixing paint, the OP was interested in keeping his bauble pretty.
 

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Old Feb 2, 2020 | 08:26 PM
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That is how you make paint pretty, polishing. Not by what wax you use, or sealant or coating. A swirled up mess is still a swirled up mess if you put wax on it.
You just inadvertently told us what you know about it all. Wax or any LSP can only enhance the look very little. Polishing is where the look comes from. Look at the picture I posted. You think any wax, or Pledge would make that paint presentable?????

Look use Pledge all you want and your gun, it makes no difference to me. But bad information is bad information and you get mad about getting called out on it. Call me a pos, I can take it, Lets see your 50/50 shots?
 
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Old Feb 3, 2020 | 11:56 AM
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Originally Posted by eaglefan1
That is how you make paint pretty, polishing. Not by what wax you use, or sealant or coating. A swirled up mess is still a swirled up mess if you put wax on it.
You just inadvertently told us what you know about it all. Wax or any LSP can only enhance the look very little. Polishing is where the look comes from. Look at the picture I posted. You think any wax, or Pledge would make that paint presentable?????

Look use Pledge all you want and your gun, it makes no difference to me. But bad information is bad information and you get mad about getting called out on it. Call me a pos, I can take it, Lets see your 50/50 shots?


hahahaha whatever dude....apples and oranges
 
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Old Feb 3, 2020 | 05:18 PM
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Ive spent some time going thru some old threads on some detailing and car forums. 15+ years old. Researching why people use Pledge on paint. Obviously one of the reasons it's cheap. On a corvette forum they were talking about car shows and hitting it with pledge right before judging. Corvette and being cheap with a show car doesn't make sense, also stated in the thread. They all called the Pledge deal "Cheap Shine". The people that used it at car shows said it is always applied over the wax. Streaking was a issue with some. But it was just used for the judging, those 10 plus or minus minutes. All said there is zero "Protection" from using it. Hence why it was put on over the wax. Most agreed that the Pledge was a super dust magnet. Wasn't a concern for most of them because they would do it right before the judges showed up. Others stated that sometimes it was not possible, and they had to "Pledge" earlier then they wanted to and the dust, pollen sticking to the paint wasn't good.
This thread, and many others, were only about show cars, not cars actually driven for any amount of time. Also, these are show cars and the paint itself is flawless. Polishing has already been done.

Some other interesting points of the threads I read was what is exactly in it and if/how it effects automotive paint, bc.cc and lacquer. Silicones was the biggest concern and how it can/would amp up UV rays, and how body shops would have to handle any resprays. One guy even emailed the manufacturer and asked about using it on automotive paint. The manufactures reply was they only recommend their product to be used on what is listed on the product. Automotive paint is not listed.

These threads were from the early 2000s. The detailing world has come along way since then. Im sure there are guys still using Pledge on show cars, but show cars are not "Real World". Show cars don't see the elements, tar, oil off the road, fallout, like real world cars do or our bikes if those bikes are ridden. They all agree that the Pledge factor did not last at all so it had to be redone all the time. All of the pledge users agreed it should not be used for cleaning in those threads.

So, for a one shot and done car/bike show, on perfectly polished paint, Pledge could be a option for someone is what the information I gathered has told me. Is it the best option, in my opinion no. This isn't 2002. If the paint isn't polished correctly then what you will have is a 15 footer. Lots of cars look good 15ft away. Put them under some gas station lights, put a Scan grip light on it, then the truth comes out. Lipstick on a pig.

 
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Old Feb 4, 2020 | 10:55 AM
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I don't think you will find Pledge on the Auto Geek site or in any Auto Supply store on their cleaners and detailing shelves.
 
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