Tuner recommendation
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The USA's Leader V-Twin EFI & Performance www.fuelmotousa.com
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Power Vision is the tuner of choice for many top dyno tuning shops as well as individuals performing their own tuning. Support is not limited to where it was purchased; tunes and software can be downloaded from the Dynojet website, they also have a support portal, and Power Vision products are supported by in the hundreds (if not thousands) of Dynojet dyno tuning centers around the globe. Fuel Moto also offers high level support to our customers and dealer network.
Tune and software wise Power Vision has extensive tuning definitions and the maps are fully adjustable by the user. Depending on the year/model bike and tune build strategy you typically have access to 80+ tuning tables. You also have two different available software platforms; WinPv and PowerCore. If you want to take a test drive you can download the actual tunes & software at https://www.dynojet.com/
Power Vision is also the only tuning device with the ability to integrate directly into the Dynojet Dynoware RT dyno hardware. Power Vision plugs in and streams HD ECM data into the Power Core dyno control, data center, & tuning software, you can also integrate peripherals such as wideband O2's from AT-Pro, Target Tune, any other Dynojet wideband device, or you can use the wideband O2's from the dyno itself. There's also a handful of tuning utilities to assist the tuning process including Tune Lab which even allows users to write their own tune routines, scripts, & corrections.
Tune and software wise Power Vision has extensive tuning definitions and the maps are fully adjustable by the user. Depending on the year/model bike and tune build strategy you typically have access to 80+ tuning tables. You also have two different available software platforms; WinPv and PowerCore. If you want to take a test drive you can download the actual tunes & software at https://www.dynojet.com/
Power Vision is also the only tuning device with the ability to integrate directly into the Dynojet Dynoware RT dyno hardware. Power Vision plugs in and streams HD ECM data into the Power Core dyno control, data center, & tuning software, you can also integrate peripherals such as wideband O2's from AT-Pro, Target Tune, any other Dynojet wideband device, or you can use the wideband O2's from the dyno itself. There's also a handful of tuning utilities to assist the tuning process including Tune Lab which even allows users to write their own tune routines, scripts, & corrections.
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Or you could perhaps start your own.....
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I'm well aware of the fact people tend to chose these things based on popularity, user interface, etc. not necessarily which one is best.
Ask about tuners and invariably FM gets brought up. I'm buying a tuner based on which is best. Period. FM's map support may be a reason for some to buy the PV but not me.
No one seems to want to talk about things like the crank tooth setting or timing(knock retard) that still doesn't work in the PV and most likely never will at this point. Or the fact that the TTS reads data from the ECM 10 times faster than any other tuner including the PV. That's going to result in a better calibration. Especially when not tuning with a dyno.
FMs map support means nothing to me. It's just a base map and from what I've seen, the same one is used for multiple different cams/setups. Especially when it comes to cams they don't use.
This is the kind of sh!+ I want to know about BEFORE I buy one. Not AFTER. I don't have to wait til after I've tuned with one to know or understand these kinds of details.
Not taking anything away from the PV. I'm sure it's a fine tuner. But from everything Ive learned from reading and talking to tuners that have used both, the TTS is more capable.
Ask about tuners and invariably FM gets brought up. I'm buying a tuner based on which is best. Period. FM's map support may be a reason for some to buy the PV but not me.
No one seems to want to talk about things like the crank tooth setting or timing(knock retard) that still doesn't work in the PV and most likely never will at this point. Or the fact that the TTS reads data from the ECM 10 times faster than any other tuner including the PV. That's going to result in a better calibration. Especially when not tuning with a dyno.
FMs map support means nothing to me. It's just a base map and from what I've seen, the same one is used for multiple different cams/setups. Especially when it comes to cams they don't use.
This is the kind of sh!+ I want to know about BEFORE I buy one. Not AFTER. I don't have to wait til after I've tuned with one to know or understand these kinds of details.
Not taking anything away from the PV. I'm sure it's a fine tuner. But from everything Ive learned from reading and talking to tuners that have used both, the TTS is more capable.
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For the general public that just want a good+ tune that don't understand all the glitter can adapt very easily to the PV.. It's not an issue about every thousandth of a second... It's about enjoying your ride and not spending 100 hours trying to figure it out... And yes some of us need the support of a shop like Fuel moto to feel confident about our ride...
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Again, Gunner speaks without knowing what he is typing about.
while i do not disagree that the TTS is the more powerful/capable tuning tool, you are dead wrong about the crank tooth and knock capabilities of the PV. While yes, the " auto-tune" spark tuning capability in the PV doesn't work, the rest does, and works just fine. Get some real world experience!
Pauley want a cracker?
m
while i do not disagree that the TTS is the more powerful/capable tuning tool, you are dead wrong about the crank tooth and knock capabilities of the PV. While yes, the " auto-tune" spark tuning capability in the PV doesn't work, the rest does, and works just fine. Get some real world experience!
Pauley want a cracker?
m
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Again, Gunner speaks without knowing what he is typing about.
while i do not disagree that the TTS is the more powerful/capable tuning tool, you are dead wrong about the crank tooth and knock capabilities of the PV. While yes, the " auto-tune" spark tuning capability in the PV doesn't work, the rest does, and works just fine. Get some real world experience!
Pauley want a cracker?
m
while i do not disagree that the TTS is the more powerful/capable tuning tool, you are dead wrong about the crank tooth and knock capabilities of the PV. While yes, the " auto-tune" spark tuning capability in the PV doesn't work, the rest does, and works just fine. Get some real world experience!
Pauley want a cracker?
m
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