Still Pinging- Need Some Help
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Still Pinging- Need Some Help
07 Dyna with stage 1, SERT and Dyno Tune. Pinging after HD Dealer tune. Took it to a very competant dyno tuner in Phoenix area. Completely re-tuned, but still had some pinging. Took away some timing in specific areas, improved it, butI still have some slight pinging. Particularly when I roll on quickly at 45 mph in 4th gear. Hard to hear, but it's there.
What do I do here? Do we keep trying to take away timing until we have it or is it something else like a manifold leak. My tuner doesn't think it is;I guess he would see that on the dyno? Sometimes, whenI start the bike up when it is hot, the idle is a little high for a minute or two and then it settles down. Is this normal?
Any advice welcome. Has anyone had to tweak timing several times before they got results?
What do I do here? Do we keep trying to take away timing until we have it or is it something else like a manifold leak. My tuner doesn't think it is;I guess he would see that on the dyno? Sometimes, whenI start the bike up when it is hot, the idle is a little high for a minute or two and then it settles down. Is this normal?
Any advice welcome. Has anyone had to tweak timing several times before they got results?
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RE: Still Pinging- Need Some Help
I got your email but I see you have the same question here so let me give it a shot.
You gas isn't the best in the Phoenix area by a long shot so I understand the problem your having, however removing timing over and over again can create problems of its own. You pinging problem is under acceleration (rolling on the throttle) you said so I would go into the AccelEnrichment Tableand add some fuel....this is nothing but an electronic accelerator pump that works ONLY while you roll on the throttle....add .5 to the multiplier between 80C and 144C and see if that doesn't take care of it. If your add too much fuel you will get a puff of black smoke out of the pipes at the worst so don't be scared going into uncharted territory.
Let us know how it turns out.
You gas isn't the best in the Phoenix area by a long shot so I understand the problem your having, however removing timing over and over again can create problems of its own. You pinging problem is under acceleration (rolling on the throttle) you said so I would go into the AccelEnrichment Tableand add some fuel....this is nothing but an electronic accelerator pump that works ONLY while you roll on the throttle....add .5 to the multiplier between 80C and 144C and see if that doesn't take care of it. If your add too much fuel you will get a puff of black smoke out of the pipes at the worst so don't be scared going into uncharted territory.
Let us know how it turns out.
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RE: Still Pinging- Need Some Help
ORIGINAL: Doc 1
If you have a lap top and the SERT with cables (and of course the program) I can walk you through it.
If you have a lap top and the SERT with cables (and of course the program) I can walk you through it.
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RE: Still Pinging- Need Some Help
ORIGINAL: Doc 1
I got your email but I see you have the same question here so let me give it a shot.
You gas isn't the best in the Phoenix area by a long shot so I understand the problem your having, however removing timing over and over again can create problems of its own. You pinging problem is under acceleration (rolling on the throttle) you said so I would go into the AccelEnrichment Tableand add some fuel....this is nothing but an electronic accelerator pump that works ONLY while you roll on the throttle....add .5 to the multiplier between 80C and 144C and see if that doesn't take care of it. If your add too much fuel you will get a puff of black smoke out of the pipes at the worst so don't be scared going into uncharted territory.
Let us know how it turns out.
I got your email but I see you have the same question here so let me give it a shot.
You gas isn't the best in the Phoenix area by a long shot so I understand the problem your having, however removing timing over and over again can create problems of its own. You pinging problem is under acceleration (rolling on the throttle) you said so I would go into the AccelEnrichment Tableand add some fuel....this is nothing but an electronic accelerator pump that works ONLY while you roll on the throttle....add .5 to the multiplier between 80C and 144C and see if that doesn't take care of it. If your add too much fuel you will get a puff of black smoke out of the pipes at the worst so don't be scared going into uncharted territory.
Let us know how it turns out.
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RE: Still Pinging- Need Some Help
Lots of places offer 93 and up to 95 octain these days, plus Steve at GMR is telling me the fuel there isn't up to snuff for higher compression motor builds for years now......so I just assumed it was a problem. We got great gas here in Florida, I'll send you a gallon or two if you would like.