Try MegaLogViewer HD

 

In Excel once you freeze the rows down to the channels logged:

Highlight the two rows that contain the Description and Unit

At the upper right click on Sort & Filter, select Filter

From here you will see a dropdown for each channel logged, click a particular channel of interest and select a range that you want to view, only that range will be displayed.

As an example if you select the Front Spark Knock Retard dropdown it will show all values logged, if it shows only “0” then you did not have any retard. If shows other than “0” then you can select those events and it will show all channels at the time those events occurred.

 

Your MU80B16 translates to 140/80B/16.
This link http://www.discounttire.com/dtcs/infoTireMath.dos will give you some good info on size comparisons and speed diffs.
Sorry, cant help you with the cal. values you need to use in the PV.

 

I like this trick!! That works great! Thanks. Oh mine said I could only choose one row. I figured out that the only row I need to filter is the first data row after the freeze rows is done. This trick will come in useful for my other workbooks as well. Thanks again.

 

Well since I didn't get any bites on my earlier posted questions, guess I will just stumble on so here is an update.

I reinstalled the original FuelMoto spark maps for both the front and rear cylinders. Did 4 data logs and got timing knock events out the you know what in the front cylinder. ECM pulled 2* most of the time and then added it back. One time it started at 2*, but jumped to 4* then added it back. All of this is happening in the rpm range of 2000 to 2547 and in the 60 KPA column.

So I decided to give PV log tuner a try to see what that did to my tune. Using the log tuner I imported my AFR, VE front and rear, and spark tables front and rear. I used all 4 log files from my last ride and created a new pvv. I then loaded all values from the new pvv into the current tune and saved this tune with a new name. I then did a map compare with the new tune and the original tune I ran when these log files were made just to see what changes it made. I had some minor VE changes that were less than the 5%, no change to the AFR, and very minor changes to my front cylinder spark tables with the changes being less than 1* in 9 cells with some being off by themselves. This seemed to be very little change for the timing when the ecm pulled out as much as 4* in one spot. I plan to do some new logs to see what affect that had.

I didn't think I wanted to trust the Auto tune with my timing as everyone says not too with narrow band o2's. I have to say using PV log tuner was pretty easy once you use it a couple of times and with the small changes it made I fill comfortable that it isn't going overboard with it's changes.

As I have not used PV log tuner much, can some of you who are more proficient with it from the beginning of Power Vision from it's conception give me a heads up on my method? Did I do it right or am I missing something? The only thing was it did say that the lamda reading from the wideband o2 were missing, but since I don't have them and was working on timing mostly I figured it would be OK.

 

214 seems low to be temp related. These engines will easily hit 270 280 putting around at low speeds. I would keep adjusting the generic timing table at those temps. then wait and see what happens when the motor is really hot, meaning 275+. 214 just seems low to me for the knock to be temp related. Every bike is different. Mine for example, seems to like running around 160 - 180. Maybe some others can chime in with what their head temps are at normal, fully warmed up, head temperature off the PV.

 

Sorry, I responded to your earlier post without seeing this one. Here's another idea. Try richening it up and run open loop at say 14.2 in the areas that are pinging. Then data log and see if the knocks still occur. Maybe you have a area that's a little lean, and the ping is from being lean and not from too much timing. Oh the fun of learning this stuff. It really is fun...isn't it? After we mess with this stuff for a while it becomes clear why someone that REALLY knows his way around tuning a Harley is worth his weight in gold. Give the weather 3 more months are we'll both know more about this temp stuff and timing. I get the feeling we're both in for a hot summer, based on how beautiful the weather is in March.

 

Thanks stailjim61, I called Dynojet today and got Kenneth on the line. I gave him remote access to my pc and he found my maps were not up to date. After I updated it, he had me load my expanded map to the ECM. Then copy the map back from the ECM to the PV. I then re-connected the PV to the pc and he took over again to make changes all over the place. The man is talented. He was typine with one hand and moving the mouse with the other! He worked on fuel, timing, and blade control not to mention a few other tweaks I don't even know what they do. He also told me that I would never stop all ECM knock retard events. As long as I wasn't hearing the bike ping I should be ok.

I made two data logs with the new map and my head temp came up and ran around 240-255 running 70 to 80 mph with a couple stop and go's. Bike seems to have a bunch more power too. Throttle response is awesome. I don't know what that did to the mpg yet as I was too busy having fun.......LOL. I should know more about that tomorrow as I plan to ride with my cuz who likes to ride more normal than my buds from this evening. I do believe it was way too rich before and I am not sure it was even running closed loop since before the upgrade I didn't have a closed loop switch. I do now and it is on so I know I am in CL now, working with the AFR table.

My logs showed only 2 minor retard events, one of which when I had the clutch in and bliped the throttle. So I think that is better too. I should get some good logs tomorrow.

 

Update

I got in several rides today. Logs looked pretty good. I still have some minor knock events on that front cylinder, but I don't hear any pinging. I had a friend of mine that is very talented with mechanics and Harleys ride it today too. He said he didn't hear any pinging and was really surprised at how well it pulled. His take on it was, if the mpg isn't bad and no heard pinging that it should be good to go as it is tuned now. Head temps are still 240-250 out and about and 270 in stop and go........with a lot of stop for a train so they are still right where they should be. After the hammering of the test ride and my showing out a little in the first 40 miles of town riding I got 31 mpg. I hit the back roads for a total of 90 miles of mostly 55 mph riding with a strong head wind going down and tail wind coming back. That ride got me an even 40 mpg. So I think I will continue to play with the timing some, but I believe I am about done.

I love this bike!!!!!!!Again. Thanks everyone for all the help.

 

[quote=stailjim61;11036343] I never heard it ping Jim. I was basing that off the data logs showing timing being pulled. As for richening, I pulled the plugs to look at them and the front plug looked very rich while the rear plug looked great. They have been in awhile so I can't really base anything on there looks, but it was pretty obvious the front was much richer than the rear.

I couldn't agree more on the heat or the fun!! After the Kenneth updated my maps I now have the timing by temp adjustment available so I may be playing with that this summer.

You know it will probably mean pm city when that happens don't you.