Power Vision Information Thread
Road Captain
Joined: Nov 2012
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From: USA
I ran this table over the weekend. 50/50 highway and city. Had 210 miles clocked before I filled up again. Averaged around 43 MPG.
95 degree temps and the bike ran around 259 on the highway and 265 to 275 in town.
Road Warrior
Joined: Jan 2008
Posts: 1,549
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From: Upstate SC
Last year JustDennis put together a nice, straight forward, easy to understand, document on how to tune using the PV and Log Tuner way back in message #1760. This was published prior to the advent of the autotune and was the way we all generated our new calibrations (tunes). Here's the link https://app.box.com/shared/i66qvn4xf1s2xp7fgy8v
If you don't like the dynojet manuals, this will make things easier for you. Discoveries are made by mistakes......don't be afraid to experiment.
In step 3 of the document, this is the process I use:
From the main screen select Datalog/Gauges. At the lower right corner of the screen I believe it has the option to "Datalog" or "Start Log", select this. When you are done and before you shut the bike off, select End Log or Stop Log (I'm on vacation and am going from memory). This will generate a .csv log file without any of the adjustments that autotune applies. The code of 319245 that is mentioned in this step will bring up the autotune screen.
If you want a log of the autotune process just select start log from the autotune green screen.
Again this file is for info purposes. Read it from beginning to end, and then use it at your own risk.
If you don't like the dynojet manuals, this will make things easier for you. Discoveries are made by mistakes......don't be afraid to experiment.
In step 3 of the document, this is the process I use:
From the main screen select Datalog/Gauges. At the lower right corner of the screen I believe it has the option to "Datalog" or "Start Log", select this. When you are done and before you shut the bike off, select End Log or Stop Log (I'm on vacation and am going from memory). This will generate a .csv log file without any of the adjustments that autotune applies. The code of 319245 that is mentioned in this step will bring up the autotune screen.
If you want a log of the autotune process just select start log from the autotune green screen.
Again this file is for info purposes. Read it from beginning to end, and then use it at your own risk.
Reading thru this thread, it looks like a lot of folks are getting into tuning their own bikes. I really enjoy the DIY aspect of the PV. Keep up the good work.
After reading some of the questions about Autotune, I happened across this video done by Carl at DynoJet. It is a pretty simple explanation of the autotune process. Hopefully this could help Check it out here:
Last edited by JustDennis; Sep 3, 2013 at 09:22 AM.
Road Captain
Joined: Nov 2012
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From: USA
Jim Thank you for the help My CLIs are mostly upper ninety's lower 100's
I done 3 AT runs on the stock OEM. Ve's are looking alot better.
Just so you know I am tryin to setup a torque based tune. I am running a K&N 3930 intake & filter with a stock catless headpipe and American Custom bombers with 1/4 inch washer Lollipops front of the mufflers. makes great Torque and pulls very good to 6k if I need it to. What would be a good open Lambda number for the Cruise area on the fuel Table for this type of setup?
Oilsmoke
I done 3 AT runs on the stock OEM. Ve's are looking alot better.
Just so you know I am tryin to setup a torque based tune. I am running a K&N 3930 intake & filter with a stock catless headpipe and American Custom bombers with 1/4 inch washer Lollipops front of the mufflers. makes great Torque and pulls very good to 6k if I need it to. What would be a good open Lambda number for the Cruise area on the fuel Table for this type of setup?
Oilsmoke
Cruiser
Joined: Jul 2013
Posts: 124
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From: Tremonton, Utah
OK
Well a drag pipe removes all obstructions but leaves one small bend for a free flowing exhaust gases to make as much HP as possible.
I have added Lollipops to the front of the muffles, turn flat(90degree) against the flow, which will add some resistance the exhaust will make more low-end torque than a free-flowing system. My Ve's are tune with this setup.
so I called it my torque based tune. Later I will set the lollipops at a 45 degree angle to flow. and re-tune and again at 0 degree. than I plan to have all 3 dyno'ed to see. I hope that explain ok.
Oilsmoke
I have added Lollipops to the front of the muffles, turn flat(90degree) against the flow, which will add some resistance the exhaust will make more low-end torque than a free-flowing system. My Ve's are tune with this setup.
so I called it my torque based tune. Later I will set the lollipops at a 45 degree angle to flow. and re-tune and again at 0 degree. than I plan to have all 3 dyno'ed to see. I hope that explain ok.
Oilsmoke
Road Warrior
Joined: Mar 2011
Posts: 1,378
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From: Macon, GA USA
After having my PV on my bike and it still not booting all the time I have to send the piece of junk back to them. All so other problems as well. So far I would not recommend the PV to any one!!!!!!!!!!!!!! My customers and going to see I took mine off and ask why. I would ask more questions here but does not seem any one is going to answer them like several times before.
Thanks Guys!
Thanks Guys!
Road Captain
Joined: Apr 2009
Posts: 531
Likes: 4
From: Chile Flats, AZ
Carl Knows His Stuff
...After reading some of the questions about Autotune, I happened across this video done by Carl at DynoJet. It is a pretty simple explanation of the autotune process. Hopefully this could help Check it out here: Power Vision's Auto Tune - YouTube
Cheers!
Road Captain
Joined: Apr 2009
Posts: 531
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From: Chile Flats, AZ
For me, and numbers of others, both DynoJet and FuelMoto have been very responsive when I've had questions that were not answered on the forum... just my experience.
During your decision process to purchase and try the PV, your reasoning was considered, logical, and rational--there was something there that motivated you to study more about this tool and then to take ownership. That could not have been faulty reasoning on your part.
Good Luck.
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Joined: Sep 2013
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From: South Fla
46u,
Beside the PV not booting all the time, what are the other issues you had with the unit?
Your post is with value as it appears that Dynojet was apparently at a total loss to resolve the problems you encountered. Which, naturally, one would irritably exclaim " I would not recommend the PV to any one!!!!!!!!!!!!!!."
To some the cost is minimal, whereas to others it's a costly investment!
Thanks for the post.
Beside the PV not booting all the time, what are the other issues you had with the unit?
Your post is with value as it appears that Dynojet was apparently at a total loss to resolve the problems you encountered. Which, naturally, one would irritably exclaim " I would not recommend the PV to any one!!!!!!!!!!!!!!."
To some the cost is minimal, whereas to others it's a costly investment!
Thanks for the post.
Tourer
Joined: Feb 2011
Posts: 434
Likes: 2
From: Wisconsin
46U,
I had similar problems when I got my PV. I was told that I had the power/info cord routed incorrectly. I did all I could in moving it, even just had it run on top of the tank. Sent it back to Dynojet and got a different one, still same thing, with gauges on screen, it would freeze up. Well, I put it in a box a figured I wasted some money. This year I decided to down load the auto tune feature (didn't come that way), and tried doing the auto tune. I basically just left it on the bike at all times and when I had the chance did the AT. I don't know (will have to check) if the gauges still freeze up since I don' t bother using it for that on my glide, but I have made progress on using the PV for AT and logging then adjusting on home computer. Don't know why there was problem, Dynojet and Jamie@fuelmoto were at a loss. The board here was not helpful since not very many people have this issue and I suspect that those that do have this problem just give up. I say put it on your bike, run some AT, just keep trying before throwing it in the garbage.
I had similar problems when I got my PV. I was told that I had the power/info cord routed incorrectly. I did all I could in moving it, even just had it run on top of the tank. Sent it back to Dynojet and got a different one, still same thing, with gauges on screen, it would freeze up. Well, I put it in a box a figured I wasted some money. This year I decided to down load the auto tune feature (didn't come that way), and tried doing the auto tune. I basically just left it on the bike at all times and when I had the chance did the AT. I don't know (will have to check) if the gauges still freeze up since I don' t bother using it for that on my glide, but I have made progress on using the PV for AT and logging then adjusting on home computer. Don't know why there was problem, Dynojet and Jamie@fuelmoto were at a loss. The board here was not helpful since not very many people have this issue and I suspect that those that do have this problem just give up. I say put it on your bike, run some AT, just keep trying before throwing it in the garbage.