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Old Apr 24, 2016 | 11:29 AM
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Thanks L.A.Dog, I'll start working on gathering the parts and checking things out.
 
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Old Apr 25, 2016 | 02:34 AM
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^^ Cool- if you decide to do it and need more help, or want some feedback from those who have done it, just come post over in the thread. matter of fact if you read the most recent post JimG just did a report on his gas mileage after the 30/70 upgrade- and he has the SE stage4 kit. Jim's a real stickler for facts and correct numbers, math guy.
 
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Old Apr 25, 2016 | 10:23 AM
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Wondering how accurate the cli is. Done a couple long data runs, wondering if it was worth it to and chase a 1% change.
 
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Old Apr 25, 2016 | 11:11 AM
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Let me put it this way, Your good.
 
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Old Apr 25, 2016 | 12:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Wmitz
Wondering how accurate the cli is. Done a couple long data runs, wondering if it was worth it to and chase a 1% change.
You are way good with 1%.
 
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Old Apr 25, 2016 | 12:54 PM
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Smokey, Wide Open Cycles, thanks for the replies.
 
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Old Apr 25, 2016 | 01:38 PM
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Your welcome, I kinda figured that out a long time ago the hard way lol. CLI and AFF will swing back and forth +/- even as much as 5% or more over time, Thats the way the ECM works forever chasing that last few %'s Enjoy the ride.
 
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Old Apr 25, 2016 | 05:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Wmitz
Smokey, Wide Open Cycles, thanks for the replies.

You bet. Your CLI can be off by more than 1% just filling up with fuel at a different gas station.
 
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So I was wondering something.. What fuel eco should I realistically expect from a stock 2007 SERK? I am getting about 32-35 highway average 65-70MPH. And around 18-25 in town. I have lowered my AFR in my crusing ranges to as low as 14.7! And using my gauges on the PV I can see that I am in the 14.7 afr, but my eco really isnt any better.. So whats next? Lean out the VE table in those ranges or am I really already getting the best Eco I can get? I am about to load the stock map back onto the bike and do some checking.. other than that, it runs great, pulls hard, heat is managed, and no audible pinging...just looking for ideas..
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Old Apr 26, 2016 | 01:20 PM
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Wow. I've got a warmed over 120" and I get 40+ on the road. My cruise area AFR is 14.2.

You said you lowered yours to 14.7, where was it at before?
 
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