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Old May 9, 2022 | 08:14 AM
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Originally Posted by 2deuceguy
I've got 4 bikes in my shop right now that will be getting tuned with PV. Please post an update if you get these issues resolved
well something got fixed. either by updating my PV firmware, or by using a PVT file from DJ directly, but now im able to use either the new WinPV and C3 to flash ECMs.

I still have the problem where i want to use MAP based VE tables and the C3 tuning link doesn't want me to, it is showing the TPS tables instead. and yes, ive selected the MAP switch in the calibration. the PVT was directly from DJ.
 
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Old May 9, 2022 | 11:52 AM
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Originally Posted by jjdaly
well something got fixed. either by updating my PV firmware, or by using a PVT file from DJ directly, but now im able to use either the new WinPV and C3 to flash ECMs.

I still have the problem where i want to use MAP based VE tables and the C3 tuning link doesn't want me to, it is showing the TPS tables instead. and yes, ive selected the MAP switch in the calibration. the PVT was directly from DJ.
What software level are you working on? I'm doing a 2021 and that's TPS based only. I just opened a 617 map and I can select map or tps based in that one. I'm bavk and forth between C3 and WinPV on this one trying to get C3 figured out lol. They sure aren't making this easy.
 
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Old May 11, 2022 | 09:02 AM
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Originally Posted by 2deuceguy
What software level are you working on? I'm doing a 2021 and that's TPS based only. I just opened a 617 map and I can select map or tps based in that one. I'm bavk and forth between C3 and WinPV on this one trying to get C3 figured out lol. They sure aren't making this easy.
3.5.8 (or whatever the new one is) What i've been told is that there was accidentally a switch left enabled in the tune compat file(i think?) that tells C3 that FlashLink for TuningLink is possible. (i guess similar to what is possible for PCV or other things). it was experimental and non-functional. both C3 and WinPV are able to open/edit PVT files, and it appears that both are able to flash ECUs. The part that I was hoping would work is to use C3 TuningLink to give control of the dyno brake over to the software and do the steady-state and step/sweep functions for me rather than using the pendant and/or setting up a load test.
 
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Old May 15, 2022 | 08:59 PM
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Originally Posted by fuelmoto
Cam IVO/IVC will already be set in the tune you received from Dynojet, changing this will directly affect the tune. These values should be in the range of 38-39 IVC & 18-20 IVO. Unfortunately the cam cruncher tool does not take the necessary offsets for M8 into consideration.
so i put on my thinking cap finally. m8 tooth 21 (i believe) is what's read when at TDC. to figure the tooth for IVO, cam cruncher gives an opening degree of say 17.7. to translate that into the m8 tooth, the math is ((21 * 11.25) - 17.7) / 11.25 = 19.42. IVC is similar, instead add the ivc (assuming it's ABDC) and 180 then divide. ((21*11.25) + 180 + 30)/11.25 =39.66

these were for Fueling M8-574 cams. TC is same calculation, but the crank tooth at TDC is 10, replace 21 with 10. but cam cruncher does it for you so.....
 
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Old May 16, 2022 | 12:44 PM
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Originally Posted by 2deuceguy
What software level are you working on? I'm doing a 2021 and that's TPS based only. I just opened a 617 map and I can select map or tps based in that one. I'm bavk and forth between C3 and WinPV on this one trying to get C3 figured out lol. They sure aren't making this easy.
I got error messages, so I sent a tech ? to DJ- they said:
"The Power Vision for H-D doesn't have interface with C/3, and the actual tuning is all done on the handheld unit. Closing C/3 should resolve this error and if you have any PV config questions reply to this email, thank you."
 
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Old May 17, 2022 | 05:07 AM
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so with the big announcement that DJ is bringing HD support to the PV-3 interface, does that mean that C3 will have full support for it? i remember seeing C3 working on an Indian (or something) PV3 a couple years ago.
will that also mean that i can get a PV3 and be able to use it to flash all the other makes it supports (probably switching firmware for each one, as well as whatever cable interface is needed)?
the only reason i hadn't gotten a PV3 to try yet is ive only had interest from 1 customer and it wasn't even guaranteed it would work with that model year. maybe now if i know that PV3 will work with HD as well as others it might be useful.
 
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Old May 20, 2022 | 11:29 AM
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Autotune question. I read that you need to start an Autotune session with the bike warmed up, my question is does autotune start making corrections right away, or does it wait for all the messages (white messages in the screen with stuff like warmup etc.) to clear?


 
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Old May 20, 2022 | 10:20 PM
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Autotune question. I read that you need to start an Autotune session with the bike warmed up, my question is does autotune start making corrections right away, or does it wait for all the messages (white messages in the screen with stuff like warmup etc.) to clear?
AT doesn't make corrections on the fly, it records data to allow making changes to VE (and retard spark). the PV can make the changes for you (when you say apply AT results to tune), but you need to turn off AT to have the tune go into effect as normal, otherwise you are still in AT mode with all the changes to the tune to make it able to safely do AT.

to answer the question though, PV waits until all the parameters are met (engine temp, O2 sensors reading back correctly, etc).
 
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I've been Lurking on this thread for a few weeks reading through it. I have a 2016 FLSTFBS that I just did a 124" that's 4.625x4.125 Hoban brothers bottom end, heads ported and bigger valves put in. Flowing 317 at 660. R&R Rollers 10.6:1, HPI 62MM, HPI V2, Star Racing 650 Thrasher Cams D&D Boarzilla and a whole other slew of parts that is alot to type out. My goal is 150 Squared. My question is? Is this to wild of a build to expect to achieve a tune via TT that I can then ride to get dyno tuned about 1 hour away? I didn't spend 10k to not get it professionally Tuned but I dont have a way to get it to a REPUTABLE dyno tuner. I have TTS and Powervision. I am going to take it to Joe Lyons in Missouri but live in Kansas . Is this wishful thinking or... I recieved a TT from DJ and have begun heat cycles, but now 3:30 seconds run time total. im to the point of getting load to those rings for that perfect seal. What do you think? Can I get a safe drivable tune to baby it to my tuner via TT or should I just figure out a way to trailor it?
 

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Old Jun 3, 2022 | 11:31 AM
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Richard Bruce,

Do yourself a big favor and rent a trailer. Doing 100 miles on a bad tune can waste that top end - don't chance it.
Just my honest opinion.
 

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