PCIII Question
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PCIII Question
Do I need a laptop to use the PCIII? I have a desktop computer with windows XP but it is not in close proximity to my garage.
My understanding was that I will load the PCIII maps by connecting the unit to my computer via USB cable. Then I would unhook the unit from my computer and take it to the garage and hook it up on the bike.
Is this incorrect or do I need to have access to the computer during installation?
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WARG
My understanding was that I will load the PCIII maps by connecting the unit to my computer via USB cable. Then I would unhook the unit from my computer and take it to the garage and hook it up on the bike.
Is this incorrect or do I need to have access to the computer during installation?
thanks,
WARG
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Hello WARG:
You can program the PC III on your desk top machine with a USB cable but you will need a 9 volt battery and the power up cable from Power Commander. (It’s really just a plug that fits the large port on the PC III and a connector for a 9 v. batt.) The unit has to be powered up to program. The place that you ordered from should have shipped the PC III with a canned map installed. The canned map should get you up and running until you can get the bike dyno tuned or if you are lucky the canned map will be very close and the bike will run great. I installed the PC III as per instruction and attached a usb cable. I coiled the cable up and used wire ties to secure it underneath the fuse panel cover. It makes it much easier to make adjustments or tweaks to the fuel map with a laptop.
Good luck with it.( BTW Nice looking bike)
Zyklon
You can program the PC III on your desk top machine with a USB cable but you will need a 9 volt battery and the power up cable from Power Commander. (It’s really just a plug that fits the large port on the PC III and a connector for a 9 v. batt.) The unit has to be powered up to program. The place that you ordered from should have shipped the PC III with a canned map installed. The canned map should get you up and running until you can get the bike dyno tuned or if you are lucky the canned map will be very close and the bike will run great. I installed the PC III as per instruction and attached a usb cable. I coiled the cable up and used wire ties to secure it underneath the fuse panel cover. It makes it much easier to make adjustments or tweaks to the fuel map with a laptop.
Good luck with it.( BTW Nice looking bike)
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You really need to be able to zero your throttle though, which you need to be close by to do.
Other than the 1 time, you don't need a pc near your bike.
You can also use a palm pilot apparently if you have one.
Other than the 1 time, you don't need a pc near your bike.
You can also use a palm pilot apparently if you have one.
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You really need to be able to zero your throttle though, which you need to be close by to do.
Other than the 1 time, you don't need a pc near your bike.
You can also use a palm pilot apparently if you have one.
You really need to be able to zero your throttle though, which you need to be close by to do.
Other than the 1 time, you don't need a pc near your bike.
You can also use a palm pilot apparently if you have one.
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Hello Rubarb:
If you are fortunate enough to have a canned map that’s right on the money or can find a tuner that knows what they are doing I would agree with not needing to make any adjustments on the PC III. After I had my bike dyno tuned I had a bike that would run well but would die if you had to sit and let the bike idle (Like at a stoplight.)
After conferring with another member and looking at his fuel map I realized that the tuner had tried to stop the back fire and pop during deceleration by putting -40s in the 0 throttle column. This of course would starve the engine at idle. I reconfigured the 0 throttle column so that it had 10 in each cell from 2000rpm through 4000rpm and the bike runs great with no pop or backfire and idles just fine now. I guess I could have taken the bike back to the tuner but that would have meant a long drive and maybe he would have made it worse.
Zyklon
If you are fortunate enough to have a canned map that’s right on the money or can find a tuner that knows what they are doing I would agree with not needing to make any adjustments on the PC III. After I had my bike dyno tuned I had a bike that would run well but would die if you had to sit and let the bike idle (Like at a stoplight.)
After conferring with another member and looking at his fuel map I realized that the tuner had tried to stop the back fire and pop during deceleration by putting -40s in the 0 throttle column. This of course would starve the engine at idle. I reconfigured the 0 throttle column so that it had 10 in each cell from 2000rpm through 4000rpm and the bike runs great with no pop or backfire and idles just fine now. I guess I could have taken the bike back to the tuner but that would have meant a long drive and maybe he would have made it worse.
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RE: PCIII Question
Zyklon,
What I meant was that he could disconnect it and take in in the house...
You don't have to be attatched to make any changes except for the throttle position.
BH73,
Mine was at 16% before resetting it.
What I meant was that he could disconnect it and take in in the house...
You don't have to be attatched to make any changes except for the throttle position.
BH73,
Mine was at 16% before resetting it.
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Hello again Rubarb:
I understand your post now and you are right about setting the throttle position.
Mine was off by about 8. I don’t know how many people install the PC III and just run it like it is without setting the throttle position.
Zyklon
I understand your post now and you are right about setting the throttle position.
Mine was off by about 8. I don’t know how many people install the PC III and just run it like it is without setting the throttle position.
Zyklon
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So in order to set the throttle position to 0 I have to be connected to the bike, and in order to change the throttle position value I also have to be connected to the computer. Therefore this would require being able to be connected to the bike and the computer at the same time.
Am I understanding this correctly?
Am I understanding this correctly?
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RE: PCIII Question
ORIGINAL: WARG
So in order to set the throttle position to 0 I have to be connected to the bike, and in order to change the throttle position value I also have to be connected to the computer. Therefore this would require being able to be connected to the bike and the computer at the same time.
Am I understanding this correctly?
So in order to set the throttle position to 0 I have to be connected to the bike, and in order to change the throttle position value I also have to be connected to the computer. Therefore this would require being able to be connected to the bike and the computer at the same time.
Am I understanding this correctly?
Connect to the pcIII, start the bike, let it warm up then reset the throttle position.
All done.
Any laptop will do, maybe you have a friend with one. Otherwise it means carrying your PC out to the bike.
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RE: PCIII Question
FYI - I run three / 12 foot USB cables (36 feet long) from my home office desktop out the door/window to my scoot.
Have a permanent USB connection coming out of my PCIII on the bike - mounted to the frame inconspicuously.
No battery needed.
Just an option for you that DOES work.