Lights don't work, start button doesn't work.
Road Captain
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From: on the mud flats on the edge of slum city
TSM = Turn Signal Module
TSSM = Turn Signal Security Module (Fob with button)
HFSM = Hands Free Security Module (Keyless fob & Also does turn signals)
Would not bother about the first test as your bike starts.
You need the wiring diagram and the 4 part flow chart.
TSSM = Turn Signal Security Module (Fob with button)
HFSM = Hands Free Security Module (Keyless fob & Also does turn signals)
Would not bother about the first test as your bike starts.
You need the wiring diagram and the 4 part flow chart.
Road Captain
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From: on the mud flats on the edge of slum city
Also in case you miss this small part on the first page of the PDF
TSM/HFSM: When an over current or short-to-ground
condition is detected, it turns off the turn lamp outputs.
Which means a pinched wire grounded out will cause the signals to stop working.
They wont work again till the problem is fixed which is why I suggest unplugging the front signals from the system to take them out of the equation for now.
If you have your fairing on your going to have to take it off and they unplug very easy.
Then unplug the left side controls and try and then unplug the right.........the bike won't run with the right unplugged but if you cycle the power and have a security system the blinkers will flash if the system is ok and you might be able to hone in on the problem area quickly.
TSM/HFSM: When an over current or short-to-ground
condition is detected, it turns off the turn lamp outputs.
Which means a pinched wire grounded out will cause the signals to stop working.
They wont work again till the problem is fixed which is why I suggest unplugging the front signals from the system to take them out of the equation for now.
If you have your fairing on your going to have to take it off and they unplug very easy.
Then unplug the left side controls and try and then unplug the right.........the bike won't run with the right unplugged but if you cycle the power and have a security system the blinkers will flash if the system is ok and you might be able to hone in on the problem area quickly.
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Road Master
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From: Queen Creek, AZ
Also in case you miss this small part on the first page of the PDF
TSM/HFSM: When an over current or short-to-ground
condition is detected, it turns off the turn lamp outputs.
Which means a pinched wire grounded out will cause the signals to stop working.
They wont work again till the problem is fixed which is why I suggest unplugging the front signals from the system to take them out of the equation for now.
If you have your fairing on your going to have to take it off and they unplug very easy.
Then unplug the left side controls and try and then unplug the right.........the bike won't run with the right unplugged but if you cycle the power and have a security system the blinkers will flash if the system is ok and you might be able to hone in on the problem area quickly.
TSM/HFSM: When an over current or short-to-ground
condition is detected, it turns off the turn lamp outputs.
Which means a pinched wire grounded out will cause the signals to stop working.
They wont work again till the problem is fixed which is why I suggest unplugging the front signals from the system to take them out of the equation for now.
If you have your fairing on your going to have to take it off and they unplug very easy.
Then unplug the left side controls and try and then unplug the right.........the bike won't run with the right unplugged but if you cycle the power and have a security system the blinkers will flash if the system is ok and you might be able to hone in on the problem area quickly.
Road Captain
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From: on the mud flats on the edge of slum city
Well if you did not play with the rear you will need them plugged in to see if they flash.
Do you have a security system?
Unplug the left and right controls and cycle the ignition and see what happens.
Do you have a security system?
Unplug the left and right controls and cycle the ignition and see what happens.
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Road Master
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From: Queen Creek, AZ
Nothing changed from unhooking all 4 and turning to ignition.
So I went into flowchart mode. Started on chart 1 of 4.
1. No. Lamps are not on continuously
2. No. No lamps illuminate
3. Yes. TSM connector is solid
4. Yes. Reading of 12+ between terminal 1 and 12
5. No. Can't get a reading between 2&12
6. Yes. So I got to the point of "locate and repair open on(GY) etc....is this telling me I have a ground in the bars?
Fairly certain I did all correct. Most questionable is the "check for voltage at ignition fuse".... to do this I put one lead from the multimeter in the fuse holes and was getting readings of .158, .141, etc.
So I went into flowchart mode. Started on chart 1 of 4.
1. No. Lamps are not on continuously
2. No. No lamps illuminate
3. Yes. TSM connector is solid
4. Yes. Reading of 12+ between terminal 1 and 12
5. No. Can't get a reading between 2&12
6. Yes. So I got to the point of "locate and repair open on(GY) etc....is this telling me I have a ground in the bars?
Fairly certain I did all correct. Most questionable is the "check for voltage at ignition fuse".... to do this I put one lead from the multimeter in the fuse holes and was getting readings of .158, .141, etc.
Road Captain
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From: on the mud flats on the edge of slum city
To check for voltage at ignition fuse the black lead goes to the negative terminal on the battery and then check both sides of the clips that hold the fuse in with the red wire.
You should get 12+ volts if you don't then that is a no.
You should get 12+ volts if you don't then that is a no.
Road Captain
Joined: Feb 2007
Posts: 704
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From: on the mud flats on the edge of slum city
I would be looking at your grey wire and your white/black wire in the right hand side controls.
Last edited by scotty3; Mar 3, 2012 at 12:06 AM.
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It's good. I also undid the controls to take a little peak. I couldn't see much as the wires were holding it in, but I did notice some rust colored powder-like material on each. Could this be some result of a fried wire? Or could it be the conduit lube (which was clear) breaking down or something.