Lights don't work, start button doesn't work.
Road Captain
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From: on the mud flats on the edge of slum city
When jiggling the right bulb which fuse does it blow ?
I went back to your first message and you say you blacked out parts.
Did you pull the rear blinkers apart as well ?
If any of them have the spring cocked a little and touching a wire behind the circuit board that will blow the light fuse.
I went back to your first message and you say you blacked out parts.
Did you pull the rear blinkers apart as well ?
If any of them have the spring cocked a little and touching a wire behind the circuit board that will blow the light fuse.
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Road Master
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From: Queen Creek, AZ
Yes, I pulled the back blinker bar as well. what spring behind circuit board?
The light fuse is what is blowing every time. Is it that I've got the blinkers put together wrong?.. Doesn't seem like much to mess up in them.
The light fuse is what is blowing every time. Is it that I've got the blinkers put together wrong?.. Doesn't seem like much to mess up in them.
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From: on the mud flats on the edge of slum city
I'll have to see if I can find a photo a or see if I have a old blinker here.
When you pry the rubber out to remove the blinker inside the sleeve behind the globe where the wire(s) runs up the middle is a little spring that give the globe some pressure.
Well those wires can get hooked up on the spring and that is power to earth and bang goes a fuse.
When you put the blinkers back together I put the globe in then push the reflector part back in............if you pushed the reflector part back in then put a globe in you probably caught the spring.
If you pull one apart and push the center wires up through where the globe comes in you will see the spring and it will make sense what I am saying
When you pry the rubber out to remove the blinker inside the sleeve behind the globe where the wire(s) runs up the middle is a little spring that give the globe some pressure.
Well those wires can get hooked up on the spring and that is power to earth and bang goes a fuse.
When you put the blinkers back together I put the globe in then push the reflector part back in............if you pushed the reflector part back in then put a globe in you probably caught the spring.
If you pull one apart and push the center wires up through where the globe comes in you will see the spring and it will make sense what I am saying
Last edited by scotty3; Mar 4, 2012 at 01:50 PM.
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Road Master
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From: Queen Creek, AZ
I'll have to see if I can find a photo a or see if I have a old blinker here.
When you pry the rubber out to remove the blinker inside the sleeve behind the globe where the wire(s) runs up the middle is a little spring that give the globe some pressure.
Well those wires can get hooked up on the spring and that is power to earth and bang goes a fuse.
When you put the blinkers back together I put the globe in then push the reflector part back in............if you pushed the reflector part back in then put a globe in you probably caught the spring.
If you pull one apart and push the center wires up through where the globe comes in you will see the spring and it will make sense what I am saying
When you pry the rubber out to remove the blinker inside the sleeve behind the globe where the wire(s) runs up the middle is a little spring that give the globe some pressure.
Well those wires can get hooked up on the spring and that is power to earth and bang goes a fuse.
When you put the blinkers back together I put the globe in then push the reflector part back in............if you pushed the reflector part back in then put a globe in you probably caught the spring.
If you pull one apart and push the center wires up through where the globe comes in you will see the spring and it will make sense what I am saying
Road Captain
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From: on the mud flats on the edge of slum city
Ok I called it a circuit board because it holds the postive power posts in place and with the globe pressed down on them and pressure from the spring they get held in place.
Pop them out and check none are caught on the spring then pull the wiring back down as you push the bulb in so you know it is straight and then slide it back in the housing.
Or for testing purposes you can leave them out of the housing and check that none of the center contacts are grounded
Pop them out and check none are caught on the spring then pull the wiring back down as you push the bulb in so you know it is straight and then slide it back in the housing.
Or for testing purposes you can leave them out of the housing and check that none of the center contacts are grounded
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Road Master
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Well, that spring on the right side must be the culprit...at least for some of it. Got both lights hooked up, right side w/o the spring and both turn on with ignition. Good news.
Bad news, still getting nothing when I hit either right or left blinker buttons. Nothing in front oe rear and indicator on dash doesn't light up.
Going to check fuses now for what that'll be worth......
Bad news, still getting nothing when I hit either right or left blinker buttons. Nothing in front oe rear and indicator on dash doesn't light up.
Going to check fuses now for what that'll be worth......
Road Captain
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From: on the mud flats on the edge of slum city
Well, that spring on the right side must be the culprit...at least for some of it. Got both lights hooked up, right side w/o the spring and both turn on with ignition. Good news.
Bad news, still getting nothing when I hit either right or left blinker buttons. Nothing in front oe rear and indicator on dash doesn't light up.
Going to check fuses now for what that'll be worth......
Bad news, still getting nothing when I hit either right or left blinker buttons. Nothing in front oe rear and indicator on dash doesn't light up.
Going to check fuses now for what that'll be worth......
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Road Master
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From: Queen Creek, AZ
Held both blinkers. Nothing.
Went back to flowchart.
- yes. Turn signal lamps on continuously. (the way I read it, the answer is yes anyway)
- no. I checked terminal 5 & 6 on the connector to the TSM with red on the terminal and black on 12. Also checked with black on neg battery terminal.
- answer....replace TSM
Questions...could the TSM have "blown" or something....what does this thing do? It seems like just an empty plastic tube.
I guess I just get a new one and see if it does something......
Road Captain
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From: on the mud flats on the edge of slum city
Well I did say it was hard to do electrical faults over the net.
When it says are turn signal lamps on it does not mean the marker light side.
So if you have dual filament globes at the front and single filament globes at the rear it wants to know if the turn signal filament is working not the marker filament.
Could mean you are reading the flow chart wrong.
When it says are turn signal lamps on it does not mean the marker light side.
So if you have dual filament globes at the front and single filament globes at the rear it wants to know if the turn signal filament is working not the marker filament.
Could mean you are reading the flow chart wrong.