Lights don't work, start button doesn't work.
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Road Master
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ok, i'll check that tonight. What are you saying by pulling the lighting relay? that should help the test how?
I don't know where anything would be pinched....ughhhhh!!!
Let's see if we can get this solved in under 100 posts
I don't know where anything would be pinched....ughhhhh!!!
Let's see if we can get this solved in under 100 posts
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Well you said you had continuity on 2 of the front contacts and you were not sure if they were the blinker or marker light contacts. So pulling the lighting relay will remove part of the light circuit and should help that part of the test.
Pinched wires on anything you took apart and put back together as I am not there and can't see what you have done.
I once spent 2 hours chasing a problem on a 03 Dyna that the owner had put new bars on and could not find the problem when finally the owner told me just in talking how he had put a new taillight on at the same time and yes the pinched wire was back there not in the bars. He could not see how the problem was back there do did not bother telling me!
Let me know.........
Pinched wires on anything you took apart and put back together as I am not there and can't see what you have done.
I once spent 2 hours chasing a problem on a 03 Dyna that the owner had put new bars on and could not find the problem when finally the owner told me just in talking how he had put a new taillight on at the same time and yes the pinched wire was back there not in the bars. He could not see how the problem was back there do did not bother telling me!
Let me know.........
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Road Master
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Well you said you had continuity on 2 of the front contacts and you were not sure if they were the blinker or marker light contacts. So pulling the lighting relay will remove part of the light circuit and should help that part of the test.
Pinched wires on anything you took apart and put back together as I am not there and can't see what you have done.
I once spent 2 hours chasing a problem on a 03 Dyna that the owner had put new bars on and could not find the problem when finally the owner told me just in talking how he had put a new taillight on at the same time and yes the pinched wire was back there not in the bars. He could not see how the problem was back there do did not bother telling me!
Let me know.........
Pinched wires on anything you took apart and put back together as I am not there and can't see what you have done.
I once spent 2 hours chasing a problem on a 03 Dyna that the owner had put new bars on and could not find the problem when finally the owner told me just in talking how he had put a new taillight on at the same time and yes the pinched wire was back there not in the bars. He could not see how the problem was back there do did not bother telling me!
Let me know.........
tested each contact in each blinker on both continuity mode and Ohms mode. Tested them all with the lighting relay and and once with the lighting relay out. Figured I'd just try to get as much data as possible. Each contact ended up testing pretty much the same each way:
With relay taken out
Back Right: no continuity, 7.27 ohms
Back Left: no continuity, 7.27 ohms
Front Right: no continuity/7.27 ohms on one, continuity/1.5 ohms on the other.
Front Left: no continuity/7.24 ohms on one, continuity/1.5 ohms on the other.
With relay put back in:
Back Right: no continuity, 7.21 ohms
Back Left: no continuity, 7.21 ohms
Front Right: no continuity/7.22 ohms on one, continuity/1.5 ohms on the other.
Front Left: no continuity/7.27 ohms on one, continuity/1.5 ohms on the other.
For good measure and whatever its worth, i also picked up new bulbs all around today and put them in after the test to see if that would magically solve the problem. No such luck.
I'm trying to eliminate in my (novice)mind what it could be...
crossed wires - no, because i had them blinking for a few seconds before the short blew it.
no power - no, i tested (i believe correctly) to see if i was getting voltage to the contacts.
both switches bad - no, i tested for continuity and it was there when the turn signal buttons were pressed.
TSM bad - ?? not sure but a guy at the shop (looked like he knew what he was talking about) said very rare that they go bad and no way to test them..??
seriously....thanks again for taking the time to help me out with this...I'm sure you wish you never jumped in on it
steve
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Well one last test can you test if you have voltage on the orange/white wire ?
Did you check accessories fuse ?
Don't forget you can use you multimeter to check a fuse as sometimes they look good and they are bad.
If the TSM is bad the part number 68920-07 and is used in Sporters and Touring bikes RRP $114
Ebay $40 buy it now with $10 shipping
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Harley-Blink...de61d5&vxp=mtr
Did you check accessories fuse ?
Don't forget you can use you multimeter to check a fuse as sometimes they look good and they are bad.
If the TSM is bad the part number 68920-07 and is used in Sporters and Touring bikes RRP $114
Ebay $40 buy it now with $10 shipping
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Harley-Blink...de61d5&vxp=mtr
Last edited by scotty3; Mar 7, 2012 at 08:28 PM.
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Road Master
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Well one last test can you test if you have voltage on the orange/white wire ?
Did you check accessories fuse ?
Don't forget you can use you multimeter to check a fuse as sometimes they look good and they are bad.
If the TSM is bad the part number 68920-07 and is used in Sporters and Touring bikes RRP $114
Ebay $40 buy it now with $10 shipping
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Harley-Blink...de61d5&vxp=mtr
Did you check accessories fuse ?
Don't forget you can use you multimeter to check a fuse as sometimes they look good and they are bad.
If the TSM is bad the part number 68920-07 and is used in Sporters and Touring bikes RRP $114
Ebay $40 buy it now with $10 shipping
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Harley-Blink...de61d5&vxp=mtr
tested the orange/white wire at the connector that connects to the signals. left side tested at 12.09, right side was all over the board always seeming to settle at 29, but would drop down to 4 and 0...not sure if that was just the connection i had or if its a problem. this was all done with ignition on. ignition off showed nothing (as I would expect).
Road Captain
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Both sides should be the same.................can you keep checking right side
Check the wire carefully and make sure it matches up at the plug with the correct color
Check the wire carefully and make sure it matches up at the plug with the correct color
Last edited by scotty3; Mar 7, 2012 at 08:55 PM.
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Road Master
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left will hold steady at 12.05 or so. right will not, it will hold steady at 29 or so but will never stay on or even be at 12. hangs on 29 or 30 and will drop to 4. should i take the connector apart and try to test it that way? better contact?
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Well I'm not sure what to say...I took that molex connector apart, at least popped the housing out so I could get a solid contact on the orange/white terminal and still getting readings of 30.5 steadily. Red lead on terminal, black lead on neg terminal or ground, multimeter set on 12v setting. The only other difference that happens on the multimeter is that on the left that is reading right, it also lights up a checkmark in the Battery Load Test area. This does not light up on the right side that measures 30.5.
This has got to be something.....right????
This has got to be something.....right????