Lights don't work, start button doesn't work.
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Road Master
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Well I did say it was hard to do electrical faults over the net.
When it says are turn signal lamps on it does not mean the marker light side.
So if you have dual filament globes at the front and single filament globes at the rear it wants to know if the turn signal filament is working not the marker filament.
Could mean you are reading the flow chart wrong.
When it says are turn signal lamps on it does not mean the marker light side.
So if you have dual filament globes at the front and single filament globes at the rear it wants to know if the turn signal filament is working not the marker filament.
Could mean you are reading the flow chart wrong.
You were definitely right...I've learned that.
Based on that I am reading it wrong....going to sleep on it and see what I can come up with tomorrow.
Just looking at everything one last time, I wonder if I tweaked the place where the orange wires go from 2 to 1.... Maybe I'll peel them apart tomorrow and see if something is funky there.
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Road Master
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Still reading through things as I sit at work...found a couple things to try when I get home tonight. Here's a thread with some stuff I'll try....will report back what happens.
https://www.hdforums.com/forum/elect...l-problem.html
https://www.hdforums.com/forum/elect...l-problem.html
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Road Master
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From: Queen Creek, AZ
Where I'm at:
Front bulbs light the running lights...no blinkers on front or back.
Tested continuity on both right and left controls (o/w & w/b wires). Have continuity on both when blinker button is held in.
Tested voltage on orange/white wire that goes to each of the front blinker, tested high 11's,
Tested voltage on the two contacts inside the housings of all four blinkers (one contact on rears). On front, one tested 11+ and the other showed in the 80's. On rear, both showed in the 50s. Now, that doesn't seem right to me, or I was doing something wrong. For each I had black lead on negative battery terminal, red on the contact.
Tested voltage to TSM again, that showed 11+.
Any more thoughts?
Thinking back to when the blinkers stopped, I had everything working, but created a short in the left blinker. Have since corrected all shorts due to the springs, but since that point, blinkers or dash indicator for blinker have not worked once.
Thanks,
Steve
Front bulbs light the running lights...no blinkers on front or back.
Tested continuity on both right and left controls (o/w & w/b wires). Have continuity on both when blinker button is held in.
Tested voltage on orange/white wire that goes to each of the front blinker, tested high 11's,
Tested voltage on the two contacts inside the housings of all four blinkers (one contact on rears). On front, one tested 11+ and the other showed in the 80's. On rear, both showed in the 50s. Now, that doesn't seem right to me, or I was doing something wrong. For each I had black lead on negative battery terminal, red on the contact.
Tested voltage to TSM again, that showed 11+.
Any more thoughts?
Thinking back to when the blinkers stopped, I had everything working, but created a short in the left blinker. Have since corrected all shorts due to the springs, but since that point, blinkers or dash indicator for blinker have not worked once.
Thanks,
Steve
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Can you set your multimeter to ohms ?
If you can with the power off see if the center electrode in the blinker has continuity to earth by putting the black lead on earth and the red one on the contact.
If you stick the 2 probes together that should show you what you are looking for.
Hopefully none are grounded.
You didn't take the contacts out the front blinkers and put them back in the wrong way mixed up with the running light contacts at all did you ?
If you can with the power off see if the center electrode in the blinker has continuity to earth by putting the black lead on earth and the red one on the contact.
If you stick the 2 probes together that should show you what you are looking for.
Hopefully none are grounded.
You didn't take the contacts out the front blinkers and put them back in the wrong way mixed up with the running light contacts at all did you ?
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Road Master
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Can you set your multimeter to ohms ?
If you can with the power off see if the center electrode in the blinker has continuity to earth by putting the black lead on earth and the red one on the contact.
If you stick the 2 probes together that should show you what you are looking for.
Hopefully none are grounded.
You didn't take the contacts out the front blinkers and put them back in the wrong way mixed up with the running light contacts at all did you ?
If you can with the power off see if the center electrode in the blinker has continuity to earth by putting the black lead on earth and the red one on the contact.
If you stick the 2 probes together that should show you what you are looking for.
Hopefully none are grounded.
You didn't take the contacts out the front blinkers and put them back in the wrong way mixed up with the running light contacts at all did you ?
I can set it to ohms. When you say center I'm confused, the front have two contacts/electrodes and neither are centered. The rear has only one and centered. So are younsaying just check the rear. Also when you say black probe to "earth" are you just saying a ground...sorry, I'm learning.
If I stick the two probes together....what does this mean?
Finally, yes I did do that and have corrected the error.
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Sticking the 2 probes together just shows you what continuity looks like....See I have a digital meter and it says "I" which means infinite or no continuity which is good or bad depending on what you are looking for. In your case we want none for this test so by stickingthe probes together you get to see what we don't want.
The center electrode is the + or positive pin looking down into the globe holder.
Yes your front one has 2 but one is for the markers and the other one is for the blinker.
We want to test the blinker one as that is what is not working.
Earth or - or Negative or Ground all mean the same thing.
+ or Positive or Active or Power all mean the same thing
The center electrode is the + or positive pin looking down into the globe holder.
Yes your front one has 2 but one is for the markers and the other one is for the blinker.
We want to test the blinker one as that is what is not working.
Earth or - or Negative or Ground all mean the same thing.
+ or Positive or Active or Power all mean the same thing
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Road Master
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Sticking the 2 probes together just shows you what continuity looks like....See I have a digital meter and it says "I" which means infinite or no continuity which is good or bad depending on what you are looking for. In your case we want none for this test so by stickingthe probes together you get to see what we don't want.
The center electrode is the + or positive pin looking down into the globe holder.
Yes your front one has 2 but one is for the markers and the other one is for the blinker.
We want to test the blinker one as that is what is not working.
Earth or - or Negative or Ground all mean the same thing.
+ or Positive or Active or Power all mean the same thing
The center electrode is the + or positive pin looking down into the globe holder.
Yes your front one has 2 but one is for the markers and the other one is for the blinker.
We want to test the blinker one as that is what is not working.
Earth or - or Negative or Ground all mean the same thing.
+ or Positive or Active or Power all mean the same thing
I used the continuity setting on my meter. It beeps with continuity. Went through and tested every contact on all four blinkers. Black probe to negative battery terminal. Red probe to each contact.....I received a beep on every contact, all 6. This is not good / the problem?
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Make sure the globes are not in any of the sockets when you do it
I can set my multimeter to different Ω settings so at 20k Ω I see a reading between ground and the center contact of 0.96 / .098 on all 4 blinkers on a 09 Ultra
Trying to see if any have a dead short to ground because in that case resistance would go to 0.00
I can set my multimeter to different Ω settings so at 20k Ω I see a reading between ground and the center contact of 0.96 / .098 on all 4 blinkers on a 09 Ultra
Trying to see if any have a dead short to ground because in that case resistance would go to 0.00
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Road Master
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Tested again on continuity mode with no bulbs in. Rear resulted in no continuity beep on either ( black on neg terminal, red on contacts).
On the front blinkers each one resulted in one contact with no continuity, one contact with continuity (tested same way as rear).
Should one of the two contacts in the fronts have continuity or should I not be getting a reading on any of them?
On the front blinkers each one resulted in one contact with no continuity, one contact with continuity (tested same way as rear).
Should one of the two contacts in the fronts have continuity or should I not be getting a reading on any of them?
Road Captain
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From: on the mud flats on the edge of slum city
Tested again on continuity mode with no bulbs in. Rear resulted in no continuity beep on either ( black on neg terminal, red on contacts).
On the front blinkers each one resulted in one contact with no continuity, one contact with continuity (tested same way as rear).
Should one of the two contacts in the fronts have continuity or should I not be getting a reading on any of them?
On the front blinkers each one resulted in one contact with no continuity, one contact with continuity (tested same way as rear).
Should one of the two contacts in the fronts have continuity or should I not be getting a reading on any of them?
Should not be getting a reading just like the rear blinkers although to be honest I am not sure about the marker lights as we don't have them here in OZ
Pull the lighting relay out and that should sort that problem at the front for testing
And please check your accessories fuse has not blown
Last edited by scotty3; Mar 7, 2012 at 02:24 AM.