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Old Mar 4, 2018 | 11:52 AM
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Originally Posted by texaswiz
It has been mentioned many times before that a lot of riders "don't know what they don't know" concerning the transmission migration issue..
can you clarify the " transmission migration issue"? These are the type of things I'm trying to learn about the M8 but I don't see a simple list of these kind of items anywhere on the forum. Thanks.
 
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Old Mar 4, 2018 | 10:03 PM
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Originally Posted by F150HD
can you clarify the " transmission migration issue"? These are the type of things I'm trying to learn about the M8 but I don't see a simple list of these kind of items anywhere on the forum. Thanks.
>The engine, primary and transmission are all mechanically connected to each other.
>Each has it's own, separate, oil reservoir.

...so they are connected mechanically, but separated lubrication wise via seals on the shafts.

These seals fail, oil seeks the lowest level, so your engine and/or transmission drain into your primary.

That's why you should routinely check your fluids.
 
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Old Mar 5, 2018 | 07:44 AM
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I tend to think that if this was just a "failing seal issue" a fix would have been in by now unless you a privy to something we all may have missed. I believe you meant to say that "IF" a seal or a gasket fails. That would be the case in any motorcycle.




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>The engine, primary and transmission are all mechanically connected to each other.
>Each has it's own, separate, oil reservoir.

...so they are connected mechanically, but separated lubrication wise via seals on the shafts.

These seals fail, oil seeks the lowest level, so your engine and/or transmission drain into your primary.

That's why you should routinely check your fluids.
 
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Old Mar 5, 2018 | 07:49 AM
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I would say that the engine is "strongest link" in the new line. M8 issues seem to be with the oil pump which has been addressed. The engine itself is a beast. The issue with the transmission fluid transfer is from 2014 to present, not an exclusive M8 issue. This issue will be worked out. Have fun on the M8, ride!

Originally Posted by F150HD
Do M8s have the same compensator issues like earlier HDs? (am assuming it has an upgraded comp, but still....)

Are they still using the hydraulic cam tensioner setup? or has it gone to gears?

Thought I read somewhere you need to pull the gastank to put in new sparkplugs, that true?

Heard HD went to cheap wheel bearings....that still an issue w/ the newer models?
What are cons to the M8? (big issues everyone knows about)

Just wondering what the big 'fix' will be with that engine in the future. Seems every HD engine has that weakest link (I own TCs currently).

Thanks.
 
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Old Mar 5, 2018 | 08:21 AM
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I've had a 14 street glide 103, now 17 road glide 107, road glide much better power band and low end torque.
 
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Old Mar 5, 2018 | 08:44 AM
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Never heard of any oil migration issues before other than with the m8’s
I own a 2014 twinky that I typically run very bery hard. Tranny never looses a drop.
Crank case oil gets dark quick, but hey. I run it hard.
35k mi and all she wants to do is dance
 
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Old Mar 5, 2018 | 09:09 AM
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Originally Posted by ekb55
I tend to think that if this was just a "failing seal issue" a fix would have been in by now unless you a privy to something we all may have missed. I believe you meant to say that "IF" a seal or a gasket fails. That would be the case in any motorcycle.
The only thing stopping migration is seals...case, shaft, ect., no migration if these seals are good...and apparently, the bulk of the failures occur out of warranty, so a "fix" is not a priority for Harley.

I wonder how many of the seal failures are caused by the owner...car transmission fluid in the primary?....wow...that stuff eats paint...oil doesn't eat paint...can those seals and case gaskets withstand tranny fluid?
 
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Old Mar 5, 2018 | 09:31 AM
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Originally Posted by Crowbar1
I've had a 14 street glide 103, now 17 road glide 107, road glide much better power band and low end torque.
103 Vs. 107
I don't know 2HP and 3 foot pounds of torque. I don't know if you could even tell the difference.
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Old Mar 5, 2018 | 04:35 PM
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Originally Posted by JONNIEROCK
103 Vs. 107
I don't know 2HP and 3 foot pounds of torque. I don't know if you could even tell the difference.
Jonnierock
Look at the torque lines, see that gap between them and stop looking at the peak numbers.
 
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Old Mar 5, 2018 | 04:39 PM
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Originally Posted by JONNIEROCK
103 Vs. 107
I don't know 2HP and 3 foot pounds of torque. I don't know if you could even tell the difference.
Jonnierock
I've ridden a '16 and a '17 back-to-back. Similarly equipped, the difference is noticeable. Not earth shattering, but definitely noticeable, especially in lower RPM's.
 
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